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PostSubject: Kinda competitive 1850 List   Kinda competitive 1850 List I_icon_minitimeTue Apr 14 2015, 22:27

So here is my kinda sorta competitive list.
The only Court model I have is a Sslyth, so that's why I use him. Incubi are for counter attack against Deep Strikers. Assassin is the kinda/sorta component. I think he could do rather well in certain situations, and is beastie enough to be useful more often than not. If i had another venom and more Incubi, I'd run that instead.
But I can't work out what to do withy last 10 points. Any help appreciated.

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Sslyth - Venom with Dual SC - 90

Incubi - 4 Incubi including Klaivex(Warlord) in  Venom with Dual SC - 155
Trueborn - 5 Trueborn, 3 Blasters in a Raider with Aethersails and Night Shields - 175

Kabalite Warrior - 10 warriors in a Raider with Aethersails, Nightshield, Splinter Rack and Dark Lance - 175
Kabalite Warrior - 10 warriors in a Raider with Aethersails, Nightshield, Splinter Rack and Dark Lance - 175
Kabalite Warrior - 10 warriors in a Raider with Aethersails, Nightshield, Splinter Rack and Dark Lance - 175
Wyches - 5 wyches, pair of Hydra Gauntlets in Venom with Dual SC - 120
Wyches - 5 wyches, pair of Hydra Gauntlets in Venom with Dual SC - 120

Razorwing - 4 Monoscythe missiles, Dark Lances 140
Razorwing - 4 Necrotoxin missiles, Dark Lances - 140

Ravager - 3 Disintergrators - 110
Ravager - 3 Dark Lances - 125

Officio Assassinorum
Culexus Assassin - 140

TOTAL - 1840
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PostSubject: Re: Kinda competitive 1850 List   Kinda competitive 1850 List I_icon_minitimeFri Apr 17 2015, 17:27

Depending on your local meta I would say you could do with a bit more ranged anti tank.

Unless you really like wyches I would lose one unit and their venom to get a 2nd ravager with dark lances.

The other two things I would consider are:
- Do you have a specific use of the assassin in mind, he sticks out as a sore thumb in such a mobile list. I would swap him for more Dark Eldar units
- You warrior raiders are 95 pts each which is loads for an av10 open topped transport. I would consider dropping night shields and sails off all 4 raiders which saves you 80 pts, which could be better spend on new units

Things you could spend the points on if you make the above changes are:
- 1 4th blaster for the trueborn
- 5 Scourges with 4 Haywire Blasters (120 pts) to help against tanks
- a cheap beastpack (eg. 1 beastmaster and 11 krymerae for 120 pts)
- more venoms (either a lhamaean's transport) or by using the real space raider detachment to get access to more heavy support slots

Because the first 2 of the above units will increase your anti tank you could swap the lances on the raiders for disintegrators, mainly because those should jinking as much as possible to keep the vehicle alive.

So a summary of my recommended changes are:
Lose Wych Unit and their Venom = -120
Lose Hydra Gauntlets off the remaining wych squad = -5
Lose assassin = -140
Lose nightshields and sails off all 4 raiders = -80
Downgrade raider lances to dis.cannons = -20

With the 10 pts you have spare that gives 375 pts to spend, which I would spend on:
Ravager with 3 dark lances = +125
5 Scourges with 4 Haywire Blaster = +120
4th Blaster for Trueborn = +15
1 Beastmaster & 10 Krymerae = +110

Ideally I'd say get rid of both units of wyches, but I didn't want to take too much out of your exiting list.

If you have a friendly gaming environment, try using wyches to represent lharmaeans. I beleive they are an underrated unit, if not they aren't hard to convert (female warriors with a sword and pistol) I converted 3 to go with 1 official model I bought and they could go with the sslyth in the HQ venom, making the HQ more useful rather than just a tax.

Rathstar

PS. Final list with all the changes would be (nb: I left the wyches in as a didn't want to force you to use the realspace raider detachment, so couldn't add both the scourges and beastpack:

Sslyth - Venom with Dual SC - 90

Incubi - 4 Incubi including Klaivex(Warlord) in Venom with Dual SC - 155
Trueborn - 5 Trueborn, 4 Blasters in a Raider with Disintegrator Cannon - 170

Kabalite Warrior - 10 warriors in a Raider with Splinter Rack and Disintegrator Cannon - 150
Kabalite Warrior - 10 warriors in a Raider with Splinter Rack and Disintegrator Cannon - 150
Kabalite Warrior - 10 warriors in a Raider with Splinter Rack and Disintegrator Cannon - 150
Warriors - 5 Warriors in Venom with Dual SC - 105
Wyches - 5 wyches, pair of Hydra Gauntlets in Venom with Dual SC - 120

Razorwing - 4 Monoscythe missiles, Dark Lances 140
Razorwing - 4 Necrotoxin missiles, Dark Lances - 140
5 Scourges with 4 haywire Blasters - 120

Ravager - 3 Disintergrators - 110
Ravager - 3 Dark Lances - 125
Ravager - 3 Dark Lances - 125

Total - 1850

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