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shadow hunter Kabalite Warrior
Posts : 145 Join date : 2011-05-18 Location : staffordshire, england
| Subject: Malys and psychic powers Thu Oct 13 2011, 17:04 | |
| Am i right in thinking Malys would not be instant killed by a force weapon?
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Thor665 Archon
Posts : 5546 Join date : 2011-06-10 Location : Venice, FL
| Subject: Re: Malys and psychic powers Thu Oct 13 2011, 17:52 | |
| Pg. 50 of the BRB seems to pretty clearly define the insta kill effect as a psychic power - so I would say, yes, she and her squad are immune to it. | |
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Grumpy Kwi Nightmare Doll on the Loose
Posts : 362 Join date : 2011-06-02 Location : San Jose, CA
| Subject: Re: Malys and psychic powers Fri Oct 14 2011, 01:02 | |
| Not that it would matter much but would psy-ammo not work against her? Sure, it would still insta-gib her but would the shots be -1 strength? | |
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Tiri Rana Sybarite
Posts : 441 Join date : 2011-06-16 Location : Essen, Germany
| Subject: Re: Malys and psychic powers Fri Oct 14 2011, 01:14 | |
| No, it will work, because it's no psychic power, just ordinary wargear. It says it uses psychic energy, in it's fluff, but that's not enough. | |
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Thor665 Archon
Posts : 5546 Join date : 2011-06-10 Location : Venice, FL
| Subject: Re: Malys and psychic powers Fri Oct 14 2011, 01:35 | |
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Kinnay Wych
Posts : 626 Join date : 2011-06-06 Location : Hamburg, Germany
| Subject: Re: Malys and psychic powers Fri Oct 14 2011, 09:20 | |
| How about the Nemesis Force Weapons of the Grey Knights? I think they don't test after making the wound like regular Force Weapons (which would be blocked by Malys), but rather test before swinging and if passed the entire squad causes insta-gib. That is a USR and therefore not blocked by Malys, correct? | |
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Tiri Rana Sybarite
Posts : 441 Join date : 2011-06-16 Location : Essen, Germany
| Subject: Re: Malys and psychic powers Fri Oct 14 2011, 14:44 | |
| Again no, they use Force weapons, as described in the BRB. They just roll once after the first wound, instead for everyone separate.
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Kinnay Wych
Posts : 626 Join date : 2011-06-06 Location : Hamburg, Germany
| Subject: Re: Malys and psychic powers Fri Oct 14 2011, 15:31 | |
| Oh, so a unit of Grotesques with Lady Malys would indeed be a nice thing to have against GK, yes? Awesome! | |
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depayen Hellion
Posts : 91 Join date : 2011-05-24 Location : Illinois
| Subject: Re: Malys and psychic powers Fri Oct 21 2011, 05:14 | |
| I believe there still a power weapon therefore still no, feel no pain. | |
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Thor665 Archon
Posts : 5546 Join date : 2011-06-10 Location : Venice, FL
| Subject: Re: Malys and psychic powers Fri Oct 21 2011, 05:31 | |
| Of course, the question was about their ability to insta-kill things that suffer one wound. A power weapon is still a power weapon regardless of immunity to psychic powers. | |
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Urien Rakarth Kabalite Warrior
Posts : 110 Join date : 2011-05-31
| Subject: Re: Malys and psychic powers Fri Oct 21 2011, 12:23 | |
| However, you have to take a Psychic test to use a Force Weapon and you cannot use it if you have already used a Psychic shooting attack previously in the turn (unless you can use more than one power a turn).
From that I'd say it DOES count as a Psychic power. | |
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Massaen Klaivex
Posts : 2268 Join date : 2011-07-05 Location : Western Australia
| Subject: Re: Malys and psychic powers Fri Oct 21 2011, 12:43 | |
| That should be you can't use your FW if you have used ANY psychic power previously unless you have a rule letting you use 2 or more per turn(player turn remember!)
That said, it is indeed a psychic power and the instant death component is negated by Malys | |
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Thor665 Archon
Posts : 5546 Join date : 2011-06-10 Location : Venice, FL
| Subject: Re: Malys and psychic powers Fri Oct 21 2011, 19:00 | |
| - Urien Rakarth wrote:
- However, you have to take a Psychic test to use a Force Weapon and you cannot use it if you have already used a Psychic shooting attack previously in the turn (unless you can use more than one power a turn).
From that I'd say it DOES count as a Psychic power. Yes, as I said, you're immune to the insta death effect. A force Weapon's power weapon component is part of it being a weapon however and requires no power to activate - thus it's still a power weapon and that still works on you. They just can't instaglib your grots. | |
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