Grotesque Question.

If I have a Unit of Grotesques in reserves but they don't include a IC do they need to roll for Berserk Rampage while they wait in reserve?

If no then would you have to roll when the come out of reserve or the Turn after?

You roll at the beginning of the movement phase for Berserk Rampage. Not on the board=no movement phase. Interesting question as a model entering from reserve starts off of the table rather than on it. I always start mine on the board to rush the 24" of their Raider straight into the opponents army

Yea I was wondering because I am trying to come up with a 2k list and I would like to have them pop out of my WWP and hook up with my Hamies on the ground ( and I ran out of HQ slots). I just don't want to lose them before they even get out of the portals.

This is the exact same thing as with Chaos Dreads - you only roll for fire frenzy/berserk if they're on the table, as long as they're in reserves they're fine.

Also, since you roll for reserves at the start of the movement phase, you're not on the table for that turn's start of the movement phase and, again, don't have to check.

So the first time Grots coming out of a WWP would have to worry about Berserk Frenzy would be the turn *after* they came out of the portal - make sense?

I was also assuming that they would roll the turn that they arrive because of not starting the movement phase on the board=no roll. Makes sense to me Not a bad tactic if you brought them in via WWP deep enough into the opponents line, though it would be a long shot to make its points back.

I have a friend who likes to put his Chaos Dreads into reserve for this exact thing - it assures him of at least one round with the Dread doing what he wants it to do

Thanks for the clarification!