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PostSubject: 750p New here   750p New here I_icon_minitimeMon May 21 2012, 18:02

Hi! This is my first message here. I have played with Tyranids couple of months and I have about 1500p of Nids so I thinking to start new army to try something new. So I choose Dark Eldars. This is my 750p list and I think this is good to start. So teh list.

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Archon
- Agoniser
- Shadow field
- Blast Pistol
- Haywire Grenades
= 125p


Elite

4x Incubi (w/Archon)
- Venom
-- Night Shield
=153p


Troops

10x Kabalite Warriors
- Blaster
- Dark Lance
= 130p

10x Kabalite Warriors
- Blaster
- Dark Lance
= 130p

9x Wyches
- Haywire Grenades
-- Hekatrix
--- Raider
---- Flickerfield
---- Tormented Grenade Launcher
= 208p




= 746p

Edited. Please do not post the individual points cost of specific wargear or upgrades as that violates GW's intellectual property rights. Thanks, Gob.
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PostSubject: Re: 750p New here   750p New here I_icon_minitimeMon May 21 2012, 18:19

It is a good start, although i would cut the squads down a bit so you can have some Transports or Ravagers. Warriors are good at massed splinter fire, so I would keep them to AI instead of AT.

At lower point games, I would have the Archon with the wyches, and ditch the Incubi, as even though they are brutal and good at what they do, they are too expensive. You should buy some transports, and/or Ravagers.
Wyches need transports to get in close.

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PostSubject: Re: 750p New here   750p New here I_icon_minitimeMon May 21 2012, 18:21

HQ: drop the blast pistol, that 10 points can be used elsewhere, also try to free up enough points for a Phantasm Grenade Launcher so your Incubi can assault through cover.

Elite: drop the nightshields, and use those points to add a second Splinter Cannon

Troops, if you need points, drop the blasters, as these guys really shouldnt have to use it. If not keep them, there could be a worse way to waste 30 pts

overall not bad, what I would do to add to this is try and get those warrior squads some transports (drop them to 5 w/ blaster and put them in a venom is my oppinion) and start adding ravagers, those will help you immensely. Other than that its not a bad start.

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PostSubject: Re: 750p New here   750p New here I_icon_minitimeMon May 21 2012, 18:31

Thanks guys! I think choises soon.

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PostSubject: Re: 750p New here   750p New here I_icon_minitimeMon May 21 2012, 18:34

Hey man, first things first, welcome to the dark city.

If i were you i'd personally look to run something like this if you follow the advice of Shadows

Archon - 105
blaster, shadowfield

9 Kabalites w/blaster - 166
- Raider w/flickerfield

5 Kabalites w/blaster - 125
- Venom w/splinter cannon

5 Kabalites w/blaster - 125
- Venom w/splinter cannon

Ravager - 115
flickerfield

Ravager - 115
flickerfield



It sacrifices the wyches and your cc ability to give you a good shooting platform and enough AT that at limit points you can then start shredding infantry afterwards. Sit back and out shoot your opponent moving only when you need to.
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PostSubject: Re: 750p New here   750p New here I_icon_minitimeMon May 21 2012, 18:37

I like aggressive battling so afternoon tea seremony isn't to me. (Yep, thats how we call it in my area.)

Edit: Updated list:

HQ

Archon
- Agoniser
- Shadow field
- Phantasm Grenade Launcher
- Haywire Grenades
= 125p


Elite

4x Incubi (w/Archon)
- Venom
-- Splinter Cannon
=153p


Troops

10x Kabalite Warriors
- Blaster
- Dark Lance
= 130p

10x Kabalite Warriors
- Dark Lance
= 115p

9x Wyches
- Haywire Grenades
-- Hekatrix
--- Raider
---- Flickerfield
---- Tormented Grenade Launcher
= 208p




= 746p

Edit: I put Ravagers to 1000p if I like this army.

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PostSubject: Re: 750p New here   750p New here I_icon_minitimeMon May 21 2012, 20:24

again good, the only thing I can see is droping the haywires and torment grenade launcher on the raider for something 10 points worth (so nightshields on the venom, combat drugs on your archon) unless you really want that flexability to put the Archon in with the wyches sometimes. Also I dont like the TGL, and prefer shock prows for some tank shock/ramming action (good if the raider losses its dark lance)

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PostSubject: Re: 750p New here   750p New here I_icon_minitimeTue May 22 2012, 05:52

Newest:

HQ

Archon
- Agoniser
- Shadow field
- Phantasm Grenade Launcher
- Haywire Grenades
= 125p


Elite

4x Incubi (w/Archon)
- Venom
-- Splinter Cannon
=153p


Troops

10x Kabalite Warriors
- Blaster
- Dark Lance
= 130p

10x Kabalite Warriors
- Dark Lance
= 115p

9x Wyches
- Haywire Grenades
-- Hekatrix
--- Venom Blade
---- Raider
----- Flickerfield
= 208p




= 746p

Edited, Gob.

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PostSubject: Re: 750p New here   750p New here I_icon_minitimeTue May 22 2012, 11:53

Welcome to our dark little corner on the interwebz.

Overall a good list and I understand why you would choose this. Incubi is a really cool unit and a great retinue for your archon. Don't leave home without a PGL though. My only concern is your lack of handling vehicles right now. You tend to focus on CC because 'afternoon thea ceremonies' are not for you. Wink

My main advice would seriously be to fit a Ravager in there somewhere. Our collective experience as DE players here is that in general you can't rely on DL's to do anything, so pack as many as you can. With this in mind IMHO you should drop the 115 pts Warrior squad in favor of the Ravager (+ flickerfield).

Then as a small sidenote IMHO packing a blaster ánd a DL in the same squad is a waste. You'll often find yourself not able to shoot either the blaster ('cause you staid stationary to fire DL and you're away further than 18") or you can't fire your DL (because you moved to get up close and shoot the blaster). Leave one at home and purchase another Wych or something to make the squad 10 girls strong.

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PostSubject: Re: 750p New here   750p New here I_icon_minitimeTue May 22 2012, 13:03

Better?

HQ

Archon
- Agoniser
- Shadow field
- Phantasm Grenade Launcher
- Haywire Grenades
= 125p


Elite

4x Incubi (w/Archon)
- Venom
-- Splinter Cannon
=153p


Troops

10x Kabalite Warriors
- Dark Lance
= 115p

10x Wyches
- Haywire Grenades
-- Hekatrix
--- Venom Blade
---- Raider
----- Flickerfield
= 220p

Heavy Support

Ravager
- Flickerfield
- Disintegrator Cannon
=115p


= 746p

Edited, Gob.

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PostSubject: Re: 750p New here   750p New here I_icon_minitimeTue May 22 2012, 13:14

Well, i think it is, but how do you feel about it? Smile

In the end it's your list and you should do what you want. Wink

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PostSubject: Re: 750p New here   750p New here I_icon_minitimeTue May 22 2012, 13:15

If it can beat other armies it's good for me.

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PostSubject: Re: 750p New here   750p New here I_icon_minitimeTue May 22 2012, 13:40

Adding the ravager is better but i'd of kept the dark lances on it as otherwise you have 2DL weapons across the force. Other than that, what you've got will most likely work fine.
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