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PaulT
Kabalite Warrior
Posts : 139
Join date : 2012-06-06
Location : Brisbane in Oz
 |  Subject: whirlwind cover saves  Sat Jan 19 2013, 10:13 | |
| all my skimmers are behind a ruin they are being shot at by whirlwinds firing vengeance missiles the one that doesn't say "ignores cover" do my skimmers get a 4+ cover save? also do reavers have take pinning tests? Thank you | |
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Massaen
Klaivex
Posts : 2268
Join date : 2011-07-05
Location : Western Australia
| | Subject: Re: whirlwind cover saves Sat Jan 19 2013, 11:00 | |
| Reavers do not take pinning tests as they are not eligible to go to ground. - pg 45 main rule book
Assuming the whirl wind is firing indirectly, no, you would not get cover saves as you determine the attack angle from the centre of the blast | |
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Hess
Hellion
Posts : 66
Join date : 2012-11-18
Location : Bodymoore, MURDAHLAND
| | Subject: Re: whirlwind cover saves Sat Jan 19 2013, 11:50 | |
| Not to mention it says ignore cover  | |
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Mushkilla
Arena Champion
Posts : 4017
Join date : 2012-07-16
Location : Toroid Arena
| | Subject: Re: whirlwind cover saves Sat Jan 19 2013, 11:57 | |
| Agreed with massaen. - Hess wrote:
- Not to mention it says ignore cover
It can fire two tipes of missiles one has higher strength. PaulT specifically mentioned the one that does not ignore cover. - PaulT wrote:
- firing vengeance missiles the one that doesn't say "ignores cover"
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Darkgreen Pirate
Sybarite
Posts : 302
Join date : 2012-01-06
Location : The Great White North
| | Subject: Re: whirlwind cover saves Sat Jan 19 2013, 14:34 | |
| AFAIK, you would still get your Jink save though if you had moved, as Jink doesnt rely on intervening cover but on speed and maneuverability. | |
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Mushkilla
Arena Champion
Posts : 4017
Join date : 2012-07-16
Location : Toroid Arena
| | Subject: Re: whirlwind cover saves Sat Jan 19 2013, 14:36 | |
| - Darkgreen Pirate wrote:
- AFAIK, you would still get your Jink save though if you had moved, as Jink doesnt rely on intervening cover but on speed and maneuverability.
Agreed, barrage weapons don't ignore area terrain or jink saves. | |
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PaulT
Kabalite Warrior
Posts : 139
Join date : 2012-06-06
Location : Brisbane in Oz
| | Subject: Re: whirlwind cover saves Sat Jan 19 2013, 15:24 | |
| How so do they not ignore area terrain? so jink save if they've moved what about flicker field? | |
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Massaen
Klaivex
Posts : 2268
Join date : 2011-07-05
Location : Western Australia
| | Subject: Re: whirlwind cover saves Sat Jan 19 2013, 15:57 | |
| Flicker fields are an invulnerable save and thus you may always take it.
Barrage weapons work out cover saves based on where the centre of the blast is, so being behind cover is no help. You would still get jink against the standard missiles | |
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Tiri Rana
Sybarite
Posts : 441
Join date : 2011-06-16
Location : Essen, Germany
| | Subject: Re: whirlwind cover saves Sat Jan 19 2013, 16:08 | |
| Hits of a barrage weapon are always considered to originate from the center of the blast marker, so cover saves can only be taken, if the cover is between the model in question and said center, the model is in area terrain or has a cover save that doesn't rely on actual terrain, like jink or stealth.
Flicker fields are no cover, but invulnerable saves, so aren't negated. | |
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