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Mariumsc2 Slave
Posts : 24 Join date : 2014-04-28
| Subject: a new list Wed Jul 02 2014, 19:18 | |
| Hello
First sorry, its in battlescribe format, im at work on the phone. Anyhow just wanted to see how people felt about this list.
Duke will start in a raider with warriors, then move to the incubus raider.
Thank you for your comments
+++ dark eldar (1500pts) +++ +++ 1500pt Dark Eldar 6th Ed (2010) Roster (Primary Detachment)) +++
Selections:
Dark Eldar 6th Ed (2010) (Primary Detachment) Selections:
+ HQ + (300pts)
* Archon (150pts) (Fleet, Independent Character, Night Vision, Power from Pain) Blaster (15pts), Combat Drugs (10pts), Huskblade (35pts), Kabalite Armor, Plasma Grenades, Shadow field (30pts)
* Duke Sliscus the Serpent (150pts) (Contraband, Fleet, Independent Character, Low Orbit Raid, Night Vision, Power from Pain, The Serpent's Venom) Blast Pistol, Combat Drugs, Ghostplate Armour, Plasma Grenades, Shadowfield, The Serpent's Bite (x2)
+ Elites + (313pts)
* Incubi (313pts) (Fleet, Night Vision, Power from Pain) Incubus Warsuit * 8x Incubi (176pts) 8x Klaive * Klavex (67pts) Demiklaives (20pts), Murderous Assault (10pts) (*) * Raider (70pts) Dark Lance, Flickerfield (10pts)
+ Troops + (492pts)
* Kabalite Warriors (101pts) (Fleet, Night Vision, Power from Pain) * 4x Kabalite Warrior (36pts) 4x Splinter Rifle * Venom (65pts) Flickerfield, Splinter Cannon (10pts)
* Kabalite Warriors (101pts) (Fleet, Night Vision, Power from Pain) * 4x Kabalite Warrior (36pts) 4x Splinter Rifle * Venom (65pts) Flickerfield, Splinter Cannon (10pts)
* Kabalite Warriors (180pts) (Fleet, Night Vision, Power from Pain) * 9x Kabalite Warrior (81pts) 9x Splinter Rifle * Raider (80pts) Dark Lance, Flickerfield (10pts), Splinter Racks (10pts) * Sybarite (19pts) Splinter Rifle
* Kabalite Warriors (110pts) (Fleet, Night Vision, Power from Pain) * 5x Kabalite Warrior (45pts) 5x Splinter Rifle * Venom (65pts) Flickerfield, Splinter Cannon (10pts)
+ Heavy Support + (395pts)
* Ravager (115pts) (Aerial Assault, Night Vision) Dark Lance, Dark Lance, Dark Lance, Flickerfield (10pts)
* Ravager (115pts) (Aerial Assault, Night Vision) Dark Lance, Dark Lance, Dark Lance, Flickerfield (10pts)
* Razorwing Fighter (165pts) (Aerial Assault, Deep Strike, Night Vision, Supersonic) Dark Lances (x2), Flickerfield (10pts), Monoscythe Missile, Monoscythe Missile, Necrotoxin Missile (5pts), Necrotoxin Missile (5pts), Twin-linked Splinter Rifle
Profile Summary:
Name Unit Type WS BS S T W I A LD Save Pg Ref Archon (Shadow field) Infantry (ch) 7 7 3 3 3 7 4 10 5+, 2++ 34 Duke Sliscus the Serpent Infantry (ch) 6 6 3 3 2 6 3 94+/6++,2++* 51 Incubi (Klaive) Infantry 5 4 3(4) 3 1 5 2 8 3+ 31 Klavex Infantry (ch) 6 5 3 3 1 6 3 9 3+ 31 Sybarite Infantry (ch) 4 4 3 3 1 5 2 9 5+ 26 Warrior Infantry 4 4 3 3 1 5 1 8 5+ 26
Name BS Front Side Rear Type Pg HP Ref Raider 4 10 10 10Skimmer, Fast, Open-topped 44 Ravager 4 11 11 10Skimmer, Fast, Open-topped 44 3 Razorwing Fighter 4 10 10 10 Flyer 46 3 Venom 4 10 10 10Skimmer, Fast, Open-topped 43 2
Name Description Pg Ref Combat Drugs 25 Flickerfield 63 Ghostplate armour 62 Kabalite Armor 62 Shadow field 62 Shadowfield 2++, Special* 62 Splinter Racks 63
Name RangeStrength AP Type Pg Ref Blast Pistol 6" 8 2Pistol, Lance 56 Blaster 18" 8 2Assault 1, Lance 56 Dark Lance 36" 8 2Heavy 1, Lance 56 Demiklaives - Clasped - + 2 2Melee, Two-handed FAQ Demiklaives - Separate - User 2Melee, +2 Attacks FAQ Huskblade - User 2Melee, Huskblade 58 Klaive - + 1 2Melee, Two-handed FAQ Monoscythe Missile 48" 6 5Assault 1, Large Blast, One Shot 46 Necrotoxin Missile 48" X 5Assault 1, Large Blast, Poisoned (2+), Pinning, One Shot 46 Splinter Cannon 36" X 5Assault 4, or Heavy 6*, Poisoned (4+) 58 Splinter Rifle 24" X 5Rapid Fire, Poisoned (4+) 58 The Serpent's Bite -Poisoned Weapon (2+) -Melee, Serpent's Bite 51
Selection Rule Summary:
* Aerial Assault * Contraband * Deep Strike * Fleet * Independent Character * Low Orbit Raid * Murderous Assault * Night Vision * Power from Pain * Supersonic * The Serpent's Venom
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| | | BetrayTheWorld Trueborn
Posts : 2665 Join date : 2013-04-04
| Subject: Re: a new list Thu Jul 03 2014, 01:02 | |
| The minimum squad size for kabalite warriors is 5. You have 2 squads of 4. Furthermore, 300 points of HQs is a lot in a 1500 point game, especially when 1 of the two is only there for CC. You could lose the archon and still have the CC incubi unit be just about as effective.
That would free up enough points to make your warrior squads legally sized, and throw in a group of 3 blasterborn in a dual cannon venom to take advantage of the Duke's low orbit raid. | |
| | | Calmoret Slave
Posts : 10 Join date : 2013-05-12
| Subject: Re: a new list Thu Jul 03 2014, 06:51 | |
| The raider with warriors has 10 people, drop the sybarite, since the duke will be there for leadership already, also if you have leadership issues I would vote for grim trophies instead as they are better then +1 LD and can help any nearby units as well.
Unless you are deep striking the raider with incubi you might want to fit a third raider somewhere in your list, as being 1/3 your points at the moment that thing will be a fire magnet and once its gone the incubi will be out of the fight for awhile. (losing the only transport for my "death-star" unit has been a bane for me)
If you are not fighting a lot of anti-tank ignores cover i would suggest dropping the FF on the raiders, generally you will want to jink with them anyway. (Keep them on the ravagers imo those things cannot afford to jink)
What is the role of the razorwing, while having missiles and dark lances is nice for just general killy purposes If your thinking anti tank I would change it up for shatterfield missiles so side armor or low AV vehicals can be better addressed. If its in a more anti-infantry role, switch the dark lances to disintegrator cannons, you actually only lose a little power against AV 10 vehicle or flyers doing that as well (slightly higher chance to glance, slightly lower chance to pen) | |
| | | Mariumsc2 Slave
Posts : 24 Join date : 2014-04-28
| Subject: Re: a new list Thu Jul 03 2014, 19:21 | |
| I got so used to taking one out of my raider, that I spaced the min 5. My original was to put my HQ's in them. I do like the idea of deep striking the incubi, will go with that. My razorwing I wanted it as my general back up, of what ever went wrong. I want it to do what ever I need it to do in a pinch. So my updated list looks like this.
HQ Duke 125pt
Elites incubi 340pts x9 incubi, x1 Klavex (bloodstone, demiklaives, murderous assault) Raider
Trueborn 185pts x5 Trueborn (x2 dark lance, haywire grenades, x3 splinter rifles) Venom (FF, Splinter Cannon)
Troops x5 warriors 134pts (x1 blaster) venom (FF, splinter cannon)
x5 warriors 134pts (x1 blaster) venom (FF, Splinter cannon)
x9 Warriors 151pts Raider (dark lance, splinter racks)
Heavy x2 Ravager 230pts (x3 Darklance, FF)
Razerwing 175pts (x2 Dark lance, TL Splinter rifle, FF, x2 Necro missiles, x2 Shatterfield missiles _________________ I know not what WW3 will be fought with, but WW4 will be fought with sticks and stones.
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| | | Calmoret Slave
Posts : 10 Join date : 2013-05-12
| Subject: Re: a new list Fri Jul 04 2014, 02:19 | |
| Check the points on the 5x warriors, with blaster, in venom, I think it should be lower (codex not on me right this second).
I am not sure what your plan is with the trueborn but if you keep them in the venom and move it remember that you can only snapfire, if your planning to be mobile you can switch those to blasters, also you might be able to fit in another blaster for the same cost. | |
| | | BetrayTheWorld Trueborn
Posts : 2665 Join date : 2013-04-04
| Subject: Re: a new list Fri Jul 04 2014, 04:03 | |
| - Calmoret wrote:
- I am not sure what your plan is with the trueborn but if you keep them in the venom and move it remember that you can only snapfire, if your planning to be mobile you can switch those to blasters, also you might be able to fit in another blaster for the same cost.
I agree with this. You can swap out the 2 dark lances and 1 trueborn, making it a squad of 4, and be able to arm each one of them with blasters. In total, it would cost you 2 points less than what you're currently paying, and make them pack double the punch. | |
| | | Mariumsc2 Slave
Posts : 24 Join date : 2014-04-28
| Subject: Re: a new list Fri Jul 04 2014, 05:43 | |
| Okay, ill try this out. Thank you for your help, and input _________________ I know not what WW3 will be fought with, but WW4 will be fought with sticks and stones.
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