Leaked images of the new codex.

From bols

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2014/09/40k-confirmed-vect-is-gone-more.html

http://descansodelescriba.blogspot.com/2014/09/bye-byeasdruval-vectconfirmado.html

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Nothing really new here. Of course it is in Spanish and of course I have seen better bigfoot pictures.

I do love that people must deliberately take these sort of pictures poorly. Even $20 phones have a 5MP camera these days...

I wouldn't be surprised if it was done on purpose by GW employees. It's always in Spanish!

It's either GW doing it themselves or the various blog authors doing it on purpose so they get another day or two of posts out of the same info.

I can translate:
Only the wych leader can wear haywire grenade; reavers cant do swiping attacks; most units get drop in points, 5 courges with 4 heat lances (here another confirmation) cost 120 points

Well I love scourges so that is cool. But if any of this is true reavers not being able to bladevayne or clustercaltrops is going to piss my friend off. she has 47 reavers and it was the mainstay of her army.

Feuermann wrote:

I can translate:
Only the wych leader can wear haywire grenade; reavers cant do swiping attacks; most units get drop in points, 5 courges with 4 heat lances (here another confirmation) cost 120 points

If it's true, we lost haywyches but got DE-ver melta fast now. Balanced?

No, not at all.
We can savely assume from the points here that scurges dropped 2 points (bringing them to 20) and Heat Lances coming down to Melter points (also 2 points drop).

20 Points for a Scourge is a joke. Fpr 21 you get a Space Marine biker with 3+, T5, relentless, S4, ATSKNF, Turboboost and Jink - he can get a melter for 10 points too.
Im amazed.

I was never a big fan of HWG wyches anyway. In my list that is not what they were there to do. Its always hilarious to see a LR get popped by 5 wychs but it didnt happen often. A basic wych squad is 135pts but a scourge squad with HL is 134. Yea a throw away unit but the scourges dont have OS and chances are the scourges are going to get to the vehicle unscathed. Scourges get killed after the task. Wyches will probably just get killed before.

Quote :

A basic wych squad is 135pts

The Suicide HWG Squad is 60 points.
The "omg a knight" suicide squad is 120 pints.
10 HWG wyches would still be better than Scourges.

Klaivex Charondyr wrote:

No, not at all.
We can savely assume from the points here that scurges dropped 2 points (bringing them to 20) and Heat Lances coming down to Melter points (also 2 points drop).

20 Points for a Scourge is a joke. Fpr 21 you get a Space Marine biker with 3+, T5, relentless, S4, ATSKNF, Turboboost and Jink - he can get a melter for 10 points too.
Im amazed.

Although i see your point I think it is apples and oranges.

Klaivex Charondyr wrote:

Quote :

A basic wych squad is 135pts

The Suicide HWG Squad is 60 points.
The "omg a knight" suicide squad is 120 pints.
10 HWG wyches would still be better than Scourges.

I meant 5 wychs HWG venom NS SC.

They might be better if you can get them all there.

But at the same time you are using a Troop OS unit doing something that In my opinion is what your special slots are for.

I'm going with Rumble in regard to this issue. Personally +1 with his:

Its_Rumble wrote:

Scourges get killed after the task. Wyches will probably just get killed before.

EDIT: I also like an idea suggested in another scourge post to utilize a vehicle to block LoS after a scourge squad wrecks it.

I love scourges though, they just sit well with me. Watching what 3 shard carbines and 2 splinter cannons, let alone 7 shards and 4 SC do after you drop them in cover is very nice to see. Unless the other player deals with them that round next turn you are pumping out 45 poison shots on some poor squad.

If what the leaked stuff says about the codex you better believe I will be now fielding 2 scourge squads of 5 with 4 splinter cannons and 1 shard carbine. possibly as many as 7.