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daviedight
Slave
Posts : 11
Join date : 2013-01-08
 |  Subject: Ramming skimmers  Sat Nov 22 2014, 15:42 | |
| Hi folks. I was rammed today by a Sicaran battle tank which removed my last hull point. I was about to jink when my opponent said no saves.... Uh, oh. Looks like the skimmer jinking from rams that was in 6th has gone. I can't find anything relevant in 7th. :-( Has anyone got any ideas? Surely there must be something allowing a skimmer to move out the way of a ram?! | |
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Squidmaster
Klaivex
Posts : 2225
Join date : 2013-12-18
Location : Hampshire, England
| | Subject: Re: Ramming skimmers Sat Nov 22 2014, 15:48 | |
| Why would there be no Jink?
I can't find anything in the rulebook that says you don't get saves.
Now, I know Ramming is a kind of Tank Shock, but Tank Shock casualties are worked out differently, and even then no saves doesn;t mean no cover or invulnverable saves. | |
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Riddip
Hellion
Posts : 27
Join date : 2014-06-04
| | Subject: Re: Ramming skimmers Sat Nov 22 2014, 19:30 | |
| Isn't jinking only working vs shooting attacks? So i would say no jink when ramming. | |
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daviedight
Slave
Posts : 11
Join date : 2013-01-08
| | Subject: Re: Ramming skimmers Sun Nov 23 2014, 05:57 | |
| - Riddip wrote:
- Isn't jinking only working vs shooting attacks? So i would say no jink when ramming.
This seems to be the case now. In 6th ed. On page 84 or 85, it specifically said you could jink a ram. In this edition however, it seems to be gone. The jink special rule is only relevant for shooting attacks. :-( I was hoping someone on here had found out otherwise. | |
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Squidmaster
Klaivex
Posts : 2225
Join date : 2013-12-18
Location : Hampshire, England
| | Subject: Re: Ramming skimmers Sun Nov 23 2014, 12:39 | |
| I would reason that as Ramming is done with a Flat-Out move, which is during the Shoting Phase, then it would be allowed. | |
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Massaen
Klaivex
Posts : 2268
Join date : 2011-07-05
Location : Western Australia
| | Subject: Re: Ramming skimmers Sun Nov 23 2014, 12:55 | |
| jinking specifies you are the target of the attack - Ram does not pick a target | |
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Laughingcarp
Wych
Posts : 562
Join date : 2013-09-03
Location : The insane asylum of the universe
| | Subject: Re: Ramming skimmers Sun Nov 23 2014, 21:11 | |
| Squidmaster, Ramming is done with a regular movement, I don't think it is allowed to ram with a flat-out is it? So movement phase only. | |
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clever handle
Kabalite Warrior
Posts : 122
Join date : 2013-07-10
Location : Right behind you
| | Subject: Re: Ramming skimmers Mon Nov 24 2014, 21:18 | |
| this is one of the many small changes in 7th edition. Previously there was the jink save, before that all skimmers had a 3+ "dodge" save... don't believe there's anything anymore. | |
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Unholyllama
Sybarite
Posts : 267
Join date : 2013-08-27
| | Subject: Re: Ramming skimmers Mon Nov 24 2014, 22:21 | |
| Ramming is done only in the movement phase. Jinking specifically states it's a save against shooting attacks (which ramming is not) so you cannot get a jink save against a hit from someone ramming you. | |
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Squidmaster
Klaivex
Posts : 2225
Join date : 2013-12-18
Location : Hampshire, England
| | Subject: Re: Ramming skimmers Tue Nov 25 2014, 11:20 | |
| - Laughingcarp wrote:
- Squidmaster, Ramming is done with a regular movement, I don't think it is allowed to ram with a flat-out is it? So movement phase only.
Damn, did I get that wrong? Its been so long since I used to ram EVERYTHING (5th) it must have gotten muddled in my brain. Apologies. | |
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honethedroll
Hellion
Posts : 39
Join date : 2013-11-18
Location : KC, MO
| | Subject: Re: Ramming skimmers Tue Nov 25 2014, 21:09 | |
| - Massaen wrote:
- jinking specifies you are the target of the attack
This may seem to be a minor quibble, but it has implications in other situations. Jinking actually specifies "a target for a shooting attack." | |
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