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Hellstrom Wych
Posts : 515 Join date : 2014-11-24 Location : South Central England
| Subject: New unit build or did I miss lots of rules? Thu Feb 05 2015, 11:30 | |
| I'm ill, so feel like I've missed lots here, but I'd like to know what please Archon with Blaster, riding a Venom (dual SC ofc). 4 Mandrakes joining the unit for deployment. This makes the entire unit Infiltrate All have 18" weapons (excluding the Venom). Entire unit has Stealth and Shrouded? 2+ Jink on the Venom ?? Please tell me what I've done wrong | |
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The_Burning_Eye Trueborn
Posts : 2501 Join date : 2012-01-16 Location : Rutland - UK
| Subject: Re: New unit build or did I miss lots of rules? Thu Feb 05 2015, 11:34 | |
| - Hellstrom wrote:
- This makes the entire unit Infiltrate
Nope, the Archon doesn't have the rule so can't infiltrate (I'm 95% convinced by this, but don't have rulebook with me), neither does the venom - Hellstrom wrote:
- Entire unit has Stealth and Shrouded? 2+ Jink on the Venom ??
Nope, only the mandrake models have the stealth and shrouded rules - they don't confer to any transport they happen to be embarked on at the time. | |
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Hellstrom Wych
Posts : 515 Join date : 2014-11-24 Location : South Central England
| Subject: Re: New unit build or did I miss lots of rules? Thu Feb 05 2015, 11:37 | |
| Independent Chars without Infiltrate can't join Infiltrators (Independent Chars Special Rule, pg 166 BRB).
Why doesn't Stealth confer to a transport? It says any unit it joins?
"A unit that contains at least one model with this special rule counts its cover saves as being 1 point better than normal." | |
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Count Adhemar Dark Lord of Granbretan
Posts : 7610 Join date : 2012-04-26 Location : London
| Subject: Re: New unit build or did I miss lots of rules? Thu Feb 05 2015, 11:42 | |
| - Hellstrom wrote:
- Independent Chars without Infiltrate can't join Infiltrators (Independent Chars Special Rule, pg 166 BRB).
Why doesn't Stealth confer to a transport? It says any unit it joins?
"A unit that contains at least one model with this special rule counts its cover saves as being 1 point better than normal." They don't join a transport. They embark on it. | |
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Hellstrom Wych
Posts : 515 Join date : 2014-11-24 Location : South Central England
| Subject: Re: New unit build or did I miss lots of rules? Thu Feb 05 2015, 11:43 | |
| Ahhhhh. Balls Thanks both of you x | |
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commandersasha Sybarite
Posts : 414 Join date : 2012-12-26 Location : Wimbledon, London
| Subject: Re: New unit build or did I miss lots of rules? Thu Feb 05 2015, 12:19 | |
| There's a Tactical Warlord Trait that gives Infiltrate to Warlord and three other units; not something to pin a whole plan on, but will come up if you roll on that table (as I do). | |
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Creeping Darkness Wych
Posts : 556 Join date : 2012-11-21
| Subject: Re: New unit build or did I miss lots of rules? Thu Feb 05 2015, 19:53 | |
| I suppose you could argue that a transport 'contains' the model with stealth, but since that would lead to Wave Serpents embarking Rangers for 2+ Jink and Land Raiders embarking the SM equivalent for 4+ cover in the open, let's not. | |
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The_Burning_Eye Trueborn
Posts : 2501 Join date : 2012-01-16 Location : Rutland - UK
| Subject: Re: New unit build or did I miss lots of rules? Thu Feb 05 2015, 23:59 | |
| - Creeping Darkness wrote:
- I suppose you could argue that a transport 'contains' the model with stealth, but since that would lead to Wave Serpents embarking Rangers for 2+ Jink and Land Raiders embarking the SM equivalent for 4+ cover in the open, let's not.
They're still two separate units anyway, and the rule is worded such that an argument on that basis is easily refutable. | |
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