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PostSubject: Help me to humiliate annoying GM    Help me to humiliate annoying GM  I_icon_minitimeTue Aug 18 2015, 13:37

Ok, i need definitely help.

The situation: In my gaming group we are trying to start a small campaign. So, everyone had decided his army and one of us elicited one small story.
Unluckily, the self-proclaimed GM is the most annoying, youngster, vain player. He has also the bad tendency to propose us "home brew" rules that only help him to win (me and tau player often smile about his silly proposal to "cancel" the night fighting via a fluffy uber-super-nova-weapon by his GK).
However: it is only a small tournament where who wins took a major part in the story. We play with GK, DE, TAU, NECRON, Khorne Daemons and much more, but only "one faction book for army, for ... fluff reasons". With this rule he also negate me to use a mix of pure DE and haemunculus coven, and i don't know if it is voluntary or not.

I don't have any proof, but when he written the story, obviously his army /Grey Knights/ has as the first opponent the army that he consider less risky: dark eldar. In this way, he thinks to guarantee a first easy victory to his GK (he know that the very nut to crack is TAU).

Soooooo, help me! This is my idea for the first match! (1000 pti, i don't know why, the other couples play between 1500 and 2000 but.... "you know, fluff reasons"):


Haemonculus
Close combat weapon, Crucible of malediction, Liquifier Gun, The Armour of Misery
with 3x Incubi (and Klaivex) on a boat raider (with disintegrator and nightshields)

2x 5 man troop on venoms (w/splinter cannon) and 1 blaster each.


Razorwing Jetfighter
2 Dark Lances, 4x Necrotoxin Missile, Nightshield, Splinter Cannon

Scourges (haywire flavour)

Ravager
Dark Lance, Dark Lance, Dark Lance, Nightshield

I am pretty sure that he gonna bring a Land raider, but not totally sure.
About this: the crucible of malediction hits the embarked spehss murrins in the LR?




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PostSubject: Re: Help me to humiliate annoying GM    Help me to humiliate annoying GM  I_icon_minitimeTue Aug 18 2015, 13:46

One guy went to a tournament. Xyz against the universe the thread is called. He used a buttload of vehicles. That sounds for a plan. Do something he's not expecting.
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PostSubject: Re: Help me to humiliate annoying GM    Help me to humiliate annoying GM  I_icon_minitimeTue Aug 18 2015, 13:55

Why your writing resemble me about Yoda?
Jockingly: No, the issue is that i've too much low points, and i dont wanna win maybe 7 to 5... i wanna win 10-1 Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Help me to humiliate annoying GM    Help me to humiliate annoying GM  I_icon_minitimeTue Aug 18 2015, 14:56

You only want Lances, Blasters and Haywire. Nothing else. I'd dump the Razorwing, the Venoms, the Haemy and the Incubi and take 2 More Ravagers (one lance Rav and one Dissie Rav) and fill the rest up with Blasterborn in Nightshielded Raiders.
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PostSubject: Re: Help me to humiliate annoying GM    Help me to humiliate annoying GM  I_icon_minitimeTue Aug 18 2015, 15:27

2nd Hellstrom, on every point.

...although, if the incubi make contact, all ap2 attacks is tempting. No guarantee you won't be assaulting through cover though and they would all die before getting to hit, so yeah, drop'em.
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PostSubject: Re: Help me to humiliate annoying GM    Help me to humiliate annoying GM  I_icon_minitimeTue Aug 18 2015, 15:32

Kick his silly ass and watch him whine and complain. Enjoy his pain.

As Hellstorm says: LANCES. So, ravagers, blaster scourges (I know somes have different opinions about blaster scourges, but in this precise case, I'd prefer them over haywire), and blaster kabalites.

Deploy as widely as you can, and after the drop, shoot them.
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PostSubject: Re: Help me to humiliate annoying GM    Help me to humiliate annoying GM  I_icon_minitimeTue Aug 18 2015, 15:33

Multiple squads of true born maybe?
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PostSubject: Re: Help me to humiliate annoying GM    Help me to humiliate annoying GM  I_icon_minitimeTue Aug 18 2015, 15:47

CptMetal wrote:
Multiple squads of true born maybe?

If possible. The problem is that 1k points is tight to fit multiple squads of trueborn. They're more expensive than the ravagers.

What you guys think of a 5x Trueborn squad w/ 2 Dark Lances? Good range, only 95 points, but they're stationary. Not enough punch? Too squishy?

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PostSubject: Re: Help me to humiliate annoying GM    Help me to humiliate annoying GM  I_icon_minitimeTue Aug 18 2015, 16:30

Lack of movement makes the 3 Blasters that you surely have in the squad virtually useless. Either that or you have them out of a vehicle and then they are hugely over priced.
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PostSubject: Re: Help me to humiliate annoying GM    Help me to humiliate annoying GM  I_icon_minitimeTue Aug 18 2015, 17:36

1000 points on the dot:
Lahmean/ venom/ cannon

3 units of 5 warriors in venoms w/ cannon and blasters

3 ravagers, 1 triple dissie, 2 triple lance

5 trueborn
venom/ cannon
4 blasters
1 dracon (warlord) with blast pistol

1K on the dot, and in almost all cases, a GK player will be tabled by turn 3.

Good luck!
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PostSubject: Re: Help me to humiliate annoying GM    Help me to humiliate annoying GM  I_icon_minitimeWed Aug 19 2015, 08:09

Skulnbonz's list is good and somethigh I would have suggested too. Be avere of Rifflemen dreadnoughts though from 5th edition if he has those.

What kind of army other than landraider you expect to face?
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PostSubject: Re: Help me to humiliate annoying GM    Help me to humiliate annoying GM  I_icon_minitimeWed Aug 19 2015, 09:49

i want to put inside the razorwing mostly because i rarely use it (1 game to 10?) and i hope that he will not deploy counters to flyers. You know if GK has some crazy standard AA role unit? Maybe a common unit that can choose to have or not skyfire?
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PostSubject: Re: Help me to humiliate annoying GM    Help me to humiliate annoying GM  I_icon_minitimeWed Aug 19 2015, 10:00

They can get twinlinked to "all" of their weapons so you would need to jink and not shoot those missiles. Againts what in that GK army are you planning to use Razorwing? I cannot see it beein any good againts almost anything usually seen in GK armies.

Wanting to use specific (subbar?)model puts you in an underdog place where your opponent according to you wants you to be. So be creative and jump out of your own box.
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PostSubject: Re: Help me to humiliate annoying GM    Help me to humiliate annoying GM  I_icon_minitimeWed Aug 19 2015, 11:03

I expect an hq focused army with a LR to deploy terminators. And a paladins (i believe) unit that will blink in my face with 30" teleport.
Maybe a dreddy.

EDIT: what means "subbar"?

EDIT 2: I've not understood you, mostly because my bad english. However, i want to use the razorwing to do some swing hits with dessie on small groups of GK, or maybe use two DL to terminate definitely LR/dreddy.
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PostSubject: Re: Help me to humiliate annoying GM    Help me to humiliate annoying GM  I_icon_minitimeWed Aug 19 2015, 11:30

Below average in its power level (if I wrote it correctly)

Against that kind of list I would suggest even more the list Skullnbonz wrote. That dreadnought is a flier killer for sure.

Paladins can't shunt. Dreadknight and powerarmored fast attac choice can do it once a game. They can Gate though witch is a psychic power that can be denied ofcource.
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PostSubject: Re: Help me to humiliate annoying GM    Help me to humiliate annoying GM  I_icon_minitimeWed Aug 19 2015, 11:48

Ok, i will write a repo after this!
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PostSubject: Re: Help me to humiliate annoying GM    Help me to humiliate annoying GM  I_icon_minitimeWed Aug 19 2015, 13:17

Use his list. You want to humiliate him. There is no reason to hold back. No reason for mercy. Feast on his pain!

Good luck.
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PostSubject: Re: Help me to humiliate annoying GM    Help me to humiliate annoying GM  I_icon_minitimeWed Aug 19 2015, 15:30

Make him rage quit and stop playing 40K!! The pride of the True Kin lies on you!
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PostSubject: Re: Help me to humiliate annoying GM    Help me to humiliate annoying GM  I_icon_minitimeWed Aug 19 2015, 16:06

Vasara wrote:
Below average in its power level (if I wrote it correctly)

It is actually subpar.
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PostSubject: Re: Help me to humiliate annoying GM    Help me to humiliate annoying GM  I_icon_minitimeWed Aug 19 2015, 17:43

I fought Grey Knights a while ago where the core of my list was very similar to the one Skulnbonz has suggested. Tabled them by the end of turn three I seem to remember. It was at a higher points level, so I had some stuff bumbling around not doing much, but the Ravagers splattered the infantry whilst the Venoms took down the Dreadknights. They really struggle to keep up with fast, mounted armies.
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