Death Masque plus Dark Eldar

What would be a decent 1000pts list to start off?

I have the Harlequin side of the Death Masque box plus the DE Start Collecting box, 10 more warriors and 3 Venoms.

Trying to get the balance right

The Death Masque actually has formations that require a specific build, but give you benefits. Read up on those formations and their benefits, and let us know how many points you have left over after.

If using all the Coherian Host it costs 770pts.

Eldrad 195
Company of the threefold stranger 155
Death's Companions 135
Blades of Fate 125
Inriam's Spectre 70
Serpents Breath 90

If you go with an allied detachment, you can add in:

1 Lhamean (not an IC, so she will have to sit out of LOS on an objective)

2x 5 warriors in venom

All with dual SC, that comes to 220 pts (leaving you 10 pts short). This gives you some nice fast ObSec units to help tie things in place for the Harlies to charge.

Cheers.
I'll give it a try.

Side question, does anyone know if the transport for Harlequins is the same body as the venom?

Draco wrote:

Side question, does anyone know if the transport for Harlequins is the same body as the venom?

It's not, AFAIK. They're very similar in appearance but definitely different models.

Count Adhemar wrote:

Draco wrote:

Side question, does anyone know if the transport for Harlequins is the same body as the venom?

It's not, AFAIK. They're very similar in appearance but definitely different models.

Ugh. I guess no sharing models haha.

I doubt too many people would object if you were to use one in place of the other. The Star/Voidweaver is slightly larger than the Venom but they are so similar that there wouldn't be many issues over LOS etc.

Count Adhemar wrote:

I doubt too many people would object if you were to use one in place of the other. The Star/Voidweaver is slightly larger than the Venom but they are so similar that there wouldn't be many issues over LOS etc.

Yeah, I can probably get away with it in friendly games. I think the Harlequin model looks much better anyway.

Hmmmm- How abut a Cast of Players build? You could convert one from the gunner for the voidweaver, combined with the Kabalites  grenade launcher and a spare Reaver mask...or you could just say that Eldrad counts as a Shadowseer...

Then you would have room for those venoms, too!

Inriam's Spectre (Death Jester with Shrouded)
Shadowseer (Level 2 with Mask of Secrets)
5x players,  4x Kiss, Troup Leader with Caress + Haywire + Starmist Raiment
Starweaver
4x SR Kabaites 1x blaster in Venom with extra SC
4x SR Kabaites 1x blaster in Venom with extra SC
4x SR Kabaites 1x blaster in Venom with extra SC
5x SR Kabaites 1x blaster in Raider with DL, Enhanced Aethersails and a Nightshield
3x Reaver Jetbikes (1x Cluster Caltrops, 1x Heat Lance/blaster, 1x Arena Champion with Agoniser)
Lhamaen (who cares)

Pros
+ This has a lot of poison.
+ It has some AT in lances and glorious S6 with psuedo rending.
+ It has a psychic phase.
+ It has a lot of fast ObSec, with Crusader if you run nearby the Harlequins!
+ You could have access to the radical Harlequins warlord traits table!

Cons
- You can't separate the Death Jester and Shadowseer from the Players until the troupes are dead.
- If you are using the FAQs, you might want to run your warriors on foot. The Jink revisal decimates the potential of DE.
-It's still just one psyker. If you duff Veil Of Tears and you are caught in the open, Harlequins have a cry mask for this occasion.
-There is quite a point sink in the assault elements. Also you want someone to kill a Kabalite, which isn't too hard, because you don't have all 21 models to put on the board at once.
- No flyers, GMCs and Superheavies please!

*Alternatively, you could run the Archon formation with Preferred Enemy alongside the Cast of Players.

DEfan wrote:

Hmmmm- How abut a Cast of Players build? You could convert one from the gunner for the voidweaver, combined with the Kabalites  grenade launcher and a spare Reaver mask...or you could just say that Eldrad counts as a Shadowseer...

Then you would have room for those venoms, too!

Inriam's Spectre (Death Jester with Shrouded)
Shadowseer (Level 2 with Mask of Secrets)
5x players,  4x Kiss, Troup Leader with Caress + Haywire + Starmist Raiment
Starweaver
4x SR Kabaites 1x blaster in Venom with extra SC
4x SR Kabaites 1x blaster in Venom with extra SC
4x SR Kabaites 1x blaster in Venom with extra SC
5x SR Kabaites 1x blaster in Raider with DL, Enhanced Aethersails and a Nightshield
3x Reaver Jetbikes (1x Cluster Caltrops, 1x Heat Lance/blaster, 1x Arena Champion with Agoniser)
Lhamaen (who cares)

Pros
+ This has a lot of poison.
+ It has some AT in lances and glorious S6 with psuedo rending.
+ It has a psychic phase.
+ It has a lot of fast ObSec, with Crusader if you run nearby the Harlequins!
+ You could have access to the radical Harlequins warlord traits table!

Cons
- You can't separate the Death Jester and Shadowseer from the Players until the troupes are dead.
- If you are using the FAQs, you might want to run your warriors on foot. The Jink revisal decimates the potential of DE.
-It's still just one psyker. If you duff Veil Of Tears and you are caught in the open, Harlequins have a cry mask for this occasion.
-There is quite a point sink in the assault elements. Also you want someone to kill a Kabalite, which isn't too hard, because you don't have all 21 models to put on the board at once.
- No flyers, GMCs and Superheavies please!

*Alternatively, you could run the Archon formation with Preferred Enemy alongside the Cast of Players.

That sounds interesting actually.

We have a large battle soon. 1000pts per player and 3-4 each side. So may run this, hoping my allies have flyers etc

What about using the Company of the threefold stranger in the cast of players unit along with Inriam's spectre. The Company could have a better load out but it is 5 points cheaper then taking all those items in a normal troupe. Would give you shrouded from specter. Be able to run and shoot using 2 dice on run from crusader and with mask on seer, fun to be had with scream and jester.

Run Harlie Run!

In fact, harlequins do not receive the crusader buff from the Cast of Players as the rule indicates 'Eldar and Dark Eldar'

The Cast of players themselves have crusader and this is the only harlequin group I am looking at running in army right now but good reminder Lelith. Thank you.

Oh I got it. I misread that you'd like to confer the crusader to other harlies. Thanks for the correction

I'm personally very disappointed for this issue though. Revenge + Cast of Players combo would be hilarious if they got the crusader bubble.