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Marrath Wych
Posts : 694 Join date : 2014-01-01 Location : A very spiky Webway-Hulk
| Subject: Grave Lotus Combat Drug and Cluster Caltrops Wed Oct 19 2016, 21:27 | |
| Grave lotus probably only ups Reavers' base strength, with Cluster Caltrops being resolved @unchanged strength 6, correct? | |
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amorrowlyday Hekatrix
Posts : 1318 Join date : 2015-03-15 Location : Massachusetts
| Subject: Re: Grave Lotus Combat Drug and Cluster Caltrops Wed Oct 19 2016, 23:43 | |
| Correct. It doesn't even help the regular ones because blade vanes are always str4 rending. It makes all the regular attacks on the charge starting turn 4 str5 tho.
Imagine if we just HAD universal feel no pain so we started getting the good bonuses on turn 2. That would be so swell. | |
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Dra'al Nacht Kabalite Warrior
Posts : 103 Join date : 2012-12-09 Location : Perth, Australia
| Subject: Re: Grave Lotus Combat Drug and Cluster Caltrops Fri Oct 21 2016, 07:27 | |
| Hammer of Wrath specifically excludes any bonuses from Special Rules. | |
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amorrowlyday Hekatrix
Posts : 1318 Join date : 2015-03-15 Location : Massachusetts
| Subject: Re: Grave Lotus Combat Drug and Cluster Caltrops Fri Oct 21 2016, 16:20 | |
| *Except special rules that explicitly modify Hammer of Wraith.
Dark Eldar Reavers Bladevanes Dark Eldar Reavers Cluster Caltrops Harlequins Embrace
That's all I've got off the top of my head. | |
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WrackYourBrains Hellion
Posts : 94 Join date : 2014-10-07
| Subject: Re: Grave Lotus Combat Drug and Cluster Caltrops Fri Oct 28 2016, 12:12 | |
| You're right, HoW can't interact with Grave Lotus. It must be unmodified St: User unless specifically overridden by a special HoW rule as mentioned by @amorrowlyday. I have a question of my own though, if you guys don't mind: * Do HoW attacks still resolve at the I:10 Step if I assault through difficult terrain (which would of course normally override attacks to I:1)? | |
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Count Adhemar Dark Lord of Granbretan
Posts : 7610 Join date : 2012-04-26 Location : London
| Subject: Re: Grave Lotus Combat Drug and Cluster Caltrops Fri Oct 28 2016, 12:20 | |
| Doesn't seem to be specifically addressed either way but I'd say that Hammer of Wrath is an advanced rule and therefore overrides the basic rule of charging through terrain. | |
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WrackYourBrains Hellion
Posts : 94 Join date : 2014-10-07
| Subject: Re: Grave Lotus Combat Drug and Cluster Caltrops Fri Oct 28 2016, 14:32 | |
| Thanks Count, that's certainly the answer I wanted.
The "...regardless of other Initiative modifiers" bit in the Charging Through Difficult Terrain section is my only worry. The HoW wording is "...at the Initiative 10 Step" rather than something like "...treat your Initiative as 10" though, so there's justification for it not being a modifier as such. | |
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Count Adhemar Dark Lord of Granbretan
Posts : 7610 Join date : 2012-04-26 Location : London
| Subject: Re: Grave Lotus Combat Drug and Cluster Caltrops Fri Oct 28 2016, 14:45 | |
| It doesn't modify your initiative, it grants you an extra attack at the I10 step. | |
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WrackYourBrains Hellion
Posts : 94 Join date : 2014-10-07
| Subject: Re: Grave Lotus Combat Drug and Cluster Caltrops Fri Oct 28 2016, 20:25 | |
| Yep, agreed. Makes cluster caltrops all the more appealing. | |
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