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Painjunky Wych
Posts : 871 Join date : 2011-08-08 Location : Sunshine Coast
| Subject: Re: Double Splinter canon venom worth it? Sun Jul 02 2017, 12:05 | |
| Cool. I will try hellions ASAP and go hunting for a multi-wound, average AS unit for them to dump wounds on. I love reavers so i'm biased. Also my first game with reavers in 8th 1 unit of 3 locked up 20 tac marines in CC turn 2 preventing them from shooting next turn. Killed 5 with shooting, grav talon, CC and only lost 1.5 in return. Next turn a counter assault unit jumped in and smoked them. Then MY counter assault units smoked them! I like the extra blasters too. | |
| | | Frederick Vael Hellion
Posts : 36 Join date : 2014-07-25
| Subject: Re: Double Splinter canon venom worth it? Sun Jul 02 2017, 12:58 | |
| Hos would you kit reavers then? On paper i think the Heat Lance works quite well on them, so you could get 3 with +1T drug and 1 heat lance, but as you pointed out 3 reavers with +1A and agonizer do as much dmg as 5 helliins with stun claws (kind of). Would you kit them full melee, or go with the shooty version, or a mix of both? Stick with 3 reavers and msu or have a couple of 6 reavers? | |
| | | amishprn86 Archon
Posts : 4436 Join date : 2014-10-04 Location : Ohio
| Subject: Re: Double Splinter canon venom worth it? Sun Jul 02 2017, 14:55 | |
| My problem with Heat Lances are the cost and Range. They cost more than a DL with 1/2 the range, less Str and 1/4 the range to insure more damage.
Its a 345pts for 3x3 with HL, that is to me a HUGE cost and if i were to do that (not saying it is bad just saying its a lot of points) i would MAKE SURE to get the drugs i want and take cheap troops to protect them, Wyches of 5mans 1 weapon and agoniser is pretty cheap, taking 5-6 units and a Succubus will make sure to get your Reavers all +1 toughness, and you can use the Wyches to stop to large of threats the your bikes. | |
| | | Painjunky Wych
Posts : 871 Join date : 2011-08-08 Location : Sunshine Coast
| Subject: Re: Double Splinter canon venom worth it? Sun Jul 02 2017, 21:53 | |
| - Frederick Vael wrote:
- Hos would you kit reavers then? On paper i think the Heat Lance works quite well on them, so you could get 3 with +1T drug and 1 heat lance, but as you pointed out 3 reavers with +1A and agonizer do as much dmg as 5 helliins with stun claws (kind of). Would you kit them full melee, or go with the shooty version, or a mix of both? Stick with 3 reavers and msu or have a couple of 6 reavers?
I have been using 3x3- blaster, ago and grav talon at 2000 pts. +1A, +1T and +2Mv. I don't like the heatlance for reasons amishprn86 mentioned. I dont have exp with 6 manz. Seems too expensive and harder to hide but give em a go and let us know. | |
| | | colinsherlow Hekatrix
Posts : 1034 Join date : 2011-11-23 Location : Vancouver BC
| Subject: Re: Double Splinter canon venom worth it? Mon Jul 03 2017, 03:07 | |
| I have been enjoying reavers quite a lot.
I have only tried units of 9 so far. And I have not been disappointed at all. I either give the reavers +1t, +1attack or +2move.
T5 is my favorite so far as it keeps the larger unit much safer. The extra attack I increases their damage output a lot. I also love the +2 movement. Moving the bikes 18" comes in handy that's from sure. I love the extra movement a lot.
Anyways. Back on topic.
Are double splinter cannons worth it? They are absolutely worth it in my experience so far. The extra firepower at range makes a huge difference. Even if it doesn't seem like it on paper. Without the extra cannon the venom just seems like it only has one purpose. And that is to transport dudes around. Which is good. I prefer to have the venom have more than one function during my games. Dark Eldar are a shoot army. So make the venoms shooty. :-) | |
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