FAQ is up

Subject: FAQ is up Sun Jul 02 2017, 18:23

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/02/warhammer-40000-faq-now-available-july2gw-homepage-post-1/

We can no longer put Hellions in transports, and the stinger pistol is 2+ now. Not much else changed for us.

Archon Posts : 4436 Join date : 2014-10-04 Location : Ohio

OH SNAP was looking for this, i got a text it was up, let me read though it really fast.

Sybarite Posts : 297 Join date : 2017-02-13

Scourges also can't be transported.

Star Cannons took a nerf - d3 damage now instead of 3

Archon Posts : 4436 Join date : 2014-10-04 Location : Ohio

Pages 56 and 57
– Raiders and Venoms, Transport
Add the following sentence to both units’ datasheets:
‘This model cannot transport Hellions or Scourges.

Dang it.........

Q. If a transport is destroyed whilst an
Yn nari
unit is embarked
inside, can that unit make a Soulburst action after it disembarks?
A. No.

Due to the sequencing we did before but i understand this change.

Sybarite Posts : 297 Join date : 2017-02-13

They also fixed the (IMO ridiculous) loop hole of using Word of the Phoenix power to soul burst units that can't soul burst

Kabalite Warrior Posts : 177 Join date : 2016-06-14

I was just looking at the stepping in to a new edition post on the FAQ and noticed that the first question about the course rules says that when measuring from a vehicle that's larger than it's base, you measure from the closest part of the base, not the vehicle. It doesn't specify if this is for movement or for shooting, so does this mean we can't shoot from the tips of our vehicles anymore? Seems like a strange way to word it.

They also clarified that units inside transports can't fire over watch when their vehicle is charged.

Archon Posts : 4436 Join date : 2014-10-04 Location : Ohio

Trueborn44 wrote:: I was just looking at the stepping in to a new edition post on the FAQ and noticed that the first question about the course rules says that when measuring from a vehicle that's larger than it's base, you measure from the closest part of the base, not the vehicle. It doesn't specify if this is for movement or for shooting, so does this mean we can't shoot from the tips of our vehicles anymore? Seems like a strange way to word it.

They also clarified that units inside transports can't fire over watch when their vehicle is charged.

I thought everyone knew you cant overwtach out of vehicles, the open top rule is very clear.

And the rules in the FAQ seems to be clear that vehicles measure from the base (this is how i was playing it already).

Wych Posts : 777 Join date : 2017-03-10

A point of note is you no longer have to pay a tax to field understrength units in matched play, if I read it correctly.

Archon Posts : 4436 Join date : 2014-10-04 Location : Ohio

TheBaconPope wrote:: A point of note is you no longer have to pay a tax to field understrength units in matched play, if I read it correctly.

Yep!

Edit: tho you can only do it once still.

Subject: Re: FAQ is up Sun Jul 02 2017, 19:44

I'm a bit disapointed that we didn't get more "drukhari" clarifications. I would love a spesification on inured to suffering. Is the save taken against the wound or the damage?

Incubi Posts : 1626 Join date : 2013-04-23

Sooo... Now I can take 5 Brides and 1 more Syren as my one "understrength" choice as escort for my Succubus? Just a first thought, I think we can find nastier stuff.

Archon Posts : 4436 Join date : 2014-10-04 Location : Ohio

2 Trueborns with DL's as 1 unit Twisted Evil

Subject: Re: FAQ is up Sun Jul 02 2017, 20:34

Does this mean that scourges actually deep strike in short range of heat lances?

Archon Posts : 4436 Join date : 2014-10-04 Location : Ohio

No, b.c you only need to be within an 1" to be in CC, DSing 9.1" and charge 9" means your within 1"

Wych Posts : 777 Join date : 2017-03-10

Quote :: Does this mean that scourges actually deep strike in short range of heat lances?

Quite the opposite, I read this as treating the unit as being 10" away for determining charge ranges (keeping in mind you add 1 to the roll)

Archon Posts : 4436 Join date : 2014-10-04 Location : Ohio

TheBaconPope wrote:

Quote :: Does this mean that scourges actually deep strike in short range of heat lances?

Quite the opposite, I read this as treating the unit as being 10" away for determining charge ranges (keeping in mind you add 1 to the roll)

Its not 10" its more than 9" meaning you can be 9.01" away, so a 9" charge will make it due to having to be within 1" to be consider in CC.

Kabalite Warrior Posts : 177 Join date : 2016-06-14

Ooh that's a good catch @Gherma. On the other hand, you only need to be within 1" of a unit to make the charge, so whilst you're still technically greater than 9" away you will always make the charge, but if this the case then no luck for heat lances.

Subject: Re: FAQ is up Sun Jul 02 2017, 20:40

I think this FAQ need a FAQ XD

If you could deep strike in short range this would explain the cost of heat lances...

Archon Posts : 4436 Join date : 2014-10-04 Location : Ohio

Gherma wrote:: I think this FAQ need a FAQ XD

Honestly everything i've seen was 100% clean and clear, we need more FAQ's for other things tho.

Subject: Re: FAQ is up Sun Jul 02 2017, 20:56

Sorry I didn't express myself properly. The FAQ is very good in general, a lot better than ones in previous editions. Just this point of deep strike distance to me still seems not 100% clear.

Sybarite Posts : 303 Join date : 2013-03-31

Hen Tai, the tentacle guy wrote:: I'm a bit disapointed that we didn't get more "drukhari" clarifications. I would love a spesification on inured to suffering. Is the save taken against the wound or the damage?

This was already cleared up in the Designer's Commentary:
1. You roll to hit
2. You roll to wound
3. Opponent rolls save (armour or invul)
4. You determine total damage caused
5. For every wound caused, opponent rolls a single die for his FNP-like save.

Sybarite Posts : 303 Join date : 2013-03-31

I haven't seen anyone mention this yet: an Exploding transport no longer affects the unit inside - at least not anymore than one getting wrecked.
They've actually spelled out the order of handling an exploding transport really well this time around.

Archon Posts : 4436 Join date : 2014-10-04 Location : Ohio

Gherma wrote:: Sorry I didn't express myself properly. The FAQ is very good in general, a lot better than ones in previous editions. Just this point of deep strike distance to me still seems not 100% clear.

It is clear....

You must be out of 9"
When you charge to be in CC you must be within 1"

If you are 9.01 " away you only need to move your character 8.99" so therefor you you need a 9" charge lol.

Or to make it easier, you DS 9 1/2 inches away, a 9" charge means you would end 1/2 inch away, you check to see if you are within 1" you are so you made the charge.

Kabalite Warrior Posts : 225 Join date : 2015-04-05

Honestly the nicest thing for us here is the understrength unit thing. Incubi Bodyguards Live Again, Kind Of!

Subject: Re: FAQ is up Mon Jul 03 2017, 00:42

Trueborn44 wrote:: I was just looking at the stepping in to a new edition post on the FAQ and noticed that the first question about the course rules says that when measuring from a vehicle that's larger than it's base, you measure from the closest part of the base, not the vehicle. It doesn't specify if this is for movement or for shooting, so does this mean we can't shoot from the tips of our vehicles anymore? Seems like a strange way to word it.

They also clarified that units inside transports can't fire over watch when their vehicle is charged.

A complete moot point for us, all of our vehicles have the "Hover Vehicle" special rule specifically saying that we make measruments to and from the hull of the vehicle.