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+17|Meavar lament.config Ikol Archon_91 SushiBoy013 Bad-baden-baden The Shredder Sarkesian Britishgrotesque Logan Frost Marrath Woozl Mppqlmd RedRegicide FuelDrop Rodi Sikni yellabelly 21 posters |
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yellabelly Sybarite
Posts : 344 Join date : 2017-11-16
| Subject: Which unit? Fri Feb 16 2018, 22:32 | |
| Which single unit would you most like to see get some love in the new codex? For whatever reason, liking the model, fun to play, you've got too many that aren't used or you think they'd be a key addition to the army with a bit of a boost.
For me it's Hellions. Love the models, love the idea of them. Drugged up gangs on hoverboards hurtling round the battle field! I'm gambling on it and I've just started painting a unit of 10, mostly because I just want to paint the models. But I do hope I end up with a unit worth using post codex! | |
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Rodi Sikni Kabalite Warrior
Posts : 136 Join date : 2017-12-09
| Subject: Re: Which unit? Fri Feb 16 2018, 22:44 | |
| The Archon. He should awake the fear over all the living creatures that have the disgrace of be in his presence. He is the ruler of a cabal, he has the power of destroy worlds, he is an epitome of what all dark eldar wants to be.
If we have back to the 5th Archon, i'll be happy.
And i have 5 Archon, thats another reason xD | |
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FuelDrop Hekatrix
Posts : 1392 Join date : 2015-06-21
| Subject: Re: Which unit? Fri Feb 16 2018, 22:57 | |
| Wyches and Bloodbrides. And by extension the Succubus.
Have 40 of them, got into the army to play a wych cult. They have been useless for years. | |
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RedRegicide Wych
Posts : 686 Join date : 2016-05-20
| Subject: Re: Which unit? Fri Feb 16 2018, 23:09 | |
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Mppqlmd Incubi
Posts : 1844 Join date : 2017-07-05
| Subject: Re: Which unit? Fri Feb 16 2018, 23:13 | |
| Reavers, yeah. In 7th I used to play 3*6...
Other than that, I've always been looking for an excuse to get into Coven stuff, but right not it isn't exactly very sexy... | |
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Woozl Kabalite Warrior
Posts : 157 Join date : 2015-01-03
| Subject: Re: Which unit? Fri Feb 16 2018, 23:36 | |
| Wyches. While I like reavers, I don't like the idea of a return to bike-edition 40k. | |
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Marrath Wych
Posts : 694 Join date : 2014-01-01 Location : A very spiky Webway-Hulk
| Subject: Re: Which unit? Sat Feb 17 2018, 00:59 | |
| Grotesques, i rarely got to use Grotesquerie in 7th, but it was awesome. Now, in my humble opinion, they seem to do nothing at all.
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Logan Frost Sybarite
Posts : 465 Join date : 2016-01-25
| Subject: Re: Which unit? Sat Feb 17 2018, 09:08 | |
| 1) Reavers, I have 2 gangs or commoragh boxes waiting to be assembled. 2) jetarchon, for obvious reasons... | |
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Britishgrotesque Hellion
Posts : 95 Join date : 2017-02-12 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: Which unit? Sat Feb 17 2018, 09:30 | |
| Cronos for me, something so dark eldar about ripping enemies to bits then syphoning off their paint o rejuvenate everyone around them. | |
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Sarkesian Kabalite Warrior
Posts : 223 Join date : 2016-01-12 Location : Utah
| Subject: Re: Which unit? Sat Feb 17 2018, 17:10 | |
| Voidraven bomber. It’s the closest thing to a centerpiece we have, but still doesn’t quite pack the punch I’m hoping for. The bomb still needs more power. And stock missiles. | |
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The Shredder Trueborn
Posts : 2970 Join date : 2013-04-11
| Subject: Re: Which unit? Sat Feb 17 2018, 17:58 | |
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Bad-baden-baden Kabalite Warrior
Posts : 228 Join date : 2017-06-01 Location : Montreal
| Subject: Re: Which unit? Sat Feb 17 2018, 18:45 | |
| I love all things covens. They just have such amazing unit designs - I've got a ridiculous number of wracks that are all in varying stages of assembly, because they are just so poor compared to Kaballites. That being said I also would love to see Wyches get a bit of love. | |
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The Shredder Trueborn
Posts : 2970 Join date : 2013-04-11
| Subject: Re: Which unit? Sat Feb 17 2018, 19:19 | |
| - Rodi Sikni wrote:
- The Archon. He should awake the fear over all the living creatures that have the disgrace of be in his presence. He is the ruler of a cabal, he has the power of destroy worlds, he is an epitome of what all dark eldar wants to be.
If we have back to the 5th Archon, i'll be happy. My preference would be the 5th edition Archon, but with the option for Wings, Jetbike etc. | |
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SushiBoy013 Sybarite
Posts : 254 Join date : 2017-10-23
| Subject: Re: Which unit? Sat Feb 17 2018, 20:34 | |
| 1. Reavers 2. Hellions 3. Wyches
In that order. | |
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Archon_91 Wych
Posts : 925 Join date : 2017-01-03
| Subject: Re: Which unit? Sat Feb 17 2018, 23:36 | |
| 1. Drahzar 2. wych cult units 3. Incubi 4. Trueborn | |
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FuelDrop Hekatrix
Posts : 1392 Join date : 2015-06-21
| Subject: Re: Which unit? Sat Feb 17 2018, 23:59 | |
| 1. The whole index. 2. Forge World stuff. | |
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Ikol Wych
Posts : 571 Join date : 2017-03-20 Location : Perth
| Subject: Re: Which unit? Sun Feb 18 2018, 00:17 | |
| - FuelDrop wrote:
- 1. The whole index.
2. Forge World stuff. Where’s my damned like button? ADHEMAR! | |
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lament.config Sybarite
Posts : 450 Join date : 2015-04-20
| Subject: Re: Which unit? Sun Feb 18 2018, 21:40 | |
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|Meavar Hekatrix
Posts : 1041 Join date : 2017-01-26
| Subject: Re: Which unit? Mon Feb 19 2018, 06:17 | |
| 1) Hellions 2) Weapon and equipment options for everyone (the rest of the wych cult)
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Pain Engine Hellion
Posts : 72 Join date : 2017-09-30 Location : Stockholm
| Subject: Re: Which unit? Mon Feb 19 2018, 11:08 | |
| All coven units, pretty much. But I'd really like Wracks to be given some love, assuming the other units are at least decent. They've always been pretty weak, never survivable and never hard hitting. Also, they are one of my favourite units in the game; survivability, power, mobility and no frills for a low price is what I live for. Plus, awesome models and fluff. | |
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TeenageAngst Incubi
Posts : 1846 Join date : 2016-08-29
| Subject: Re: Which unit? Mon Feb 19 2018, 11:32 | |
| Raiders and Venoms. Baseline, I should be putting them on the board at about 70 and 50 points respectively, with additional wargear not going above about 90/65. At their current points cost they're an investment with the strange side effect of being too expensive for the units they're intended to benefit. For instance, Wyches are disposable melee tarpits. But in order to get them where they need to be, they need a Raider. That Raider however currently more than doubles the cost of the Wyches it's transporting.
Lower points on transports also means excessive redundancy would be a valid strategy again. One of my favorite lists in 7th was the parking lot, which was comprised of between 12-16 transports, all identically equipped and loaded with identical troops. It was a target priority nightmare and I loved it. | |
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Mppqlmd Incubi
Posts : 1844 Join date : 2017-07-05
| Subject: Re: Which unit? Mon Feb 19 2018, 12:35 | |
| I agree that transports need work, but not only in pricing. I think they should focus on different aspects. The Raider should gain options to support the units inside. Trophies, Racks, Sails... what have you. The Raider should be a tool you customize in order to boost the unit inside, be it with moral debuffs, twin-linking or better speed.
The Venom on the other hand is just a gunboat that happens to be a taxi. To make it viable... they just need to make the splinter cannon viable. Bringing it down to 10pts, or making it wound on 3+, or giving it assault 6 instead of RF 3... all those options would make the Venom a lot more interesting. | |
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The Shredder Trueborn
Posts : 2970 Join date : 2013-04-11
| Subject: Re: Which unit? Mon Feb 19 2018, 12:41 | |
| I'd also suggest upping the Venom's transport capacity to 6.
In the fluff, Archons often use them as personal transports for them and their favoured warriors. As it stands though, Archons can't use it with Trueborn or Incubi, because there isn't enough space. | |
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Mppqlmd Incubi
Posts : 1844 Join date : 2017-07-05
| Subject: Re: Which unit? Mon Feb 19 2018, 13:45 | |
| I think every transport could have 1 HQ in it that doesn't count in the capacity. | |
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The Shredder Trueborn
Posts : 2970 Join date : 2013-04-11
| Subject: Re: Which unit? Mon Feb 19 2018, 14:00 | |
| - Mppqlmd wrote:
- I think every transport could have 1 HQ in it that doesn't count in the capacity.
Are you thinking of this as a core rule or as a DE rule? | |
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