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Melkor Hellion
Posts : 57 Join date : 2012-08-03
| Subject: Raiding Force 1000 pts Sat Apr 07 2018, 21:52 | |
| Hello! I'm playing around with utilizing the Raiding force rules to their fullest, starting with a 1000 point list. All equipment is standard unless otherwise noted. Please let me know what you think!
Black Heart Patrol
Archon WL Trait: Labrynthine Cunning Blast Pistol Huskblade Writ of the Living Muse
Commentary: Obviously he likes to hang out with Ravagers. It feels like a waste, but I'm having a hard time finding a more active role for an Archon.
9x Warriors (Lellith Fan Club) Blaster Blast Pistol
Raider Disintegrator Cannon
Scourges 4 Haywire Blasters
Ravager 3 Dark Lances
Ravager 3 Disintegrator Cannons
Cult of Strife Patrol
Lellith Hesperax WL Trait: Blood Dancer
10 Wyches Shardnet and Impaler 2 Sets of Hydra Gauntlets Hekatrix Agonizer
Raider Disintegrator Cannon
Prophets of Flesh Patrol
Haemonculus WL Trait: Diabolical Soothsayer
5 Wracks Liquifier Gun Scissorhands
1000 pts exactly, if my math is right
While not reaching IG levels, I think this list has a healthy dose of CP at 8-10. I see no reason to blow a lot pre-game either. There are no obvious targets for portals, and I think the Raiders can make it without use of screaming jets. I also see no Haemy relics I'm dying for. My trouble is that the coven feels like a tax to me. | |
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kicu Hellion
Posts : 36 Join date : 2013-10-02 Location : Wrocław
| Subject: Re: Raiding Force 1000 pts Sat Apr 07 2018, 23:44 | |
| Hey it looks good, simmiliar what I am going to run. What I personally would change are the hwb-> blasters. They are more safe, as you can kill monsters and snipe characters after dropping behind enemy lines | |
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Melkor Hellion
Posts : 57 Join date : 2012-08-03
| Subject: Re: Raiding Force 1000 pts Sun Apr 08 2018, 18:37 | |
| I hear you, but the points would be hard to find. That'd be an additional 36 points? | |
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GreyArea Kabalite Warrior
Posts : 162 Join date : 2018-04-03
| Subject: Re: Raiding Force 1000 pts Sun Apr 08 2018, 19:02 | |
| If your archon is hanging with the ravagers then taking venom blade and splinter pistol would save on points.
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Rewind Kabalite Warrior
Posts : 221 Join date : 2016-05-12 Location : Surrey
| Subject: Re: Raiding Force 1000 pts Tue Apr 10 2018, 09:48 | |
| Hi,
8-10 CP? Surely you only get 7?
3 from being Battle Forged +4 for 3 Patrols? | |
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Melkor Hellion
Posts : 57 Join date : 2012-08-03
| Subject: Re: Raiding Force 1000 pts Tue Apr 10 2018, 12:25 | |
| Diabolical Soothsayer grants 1d3, add that to the seven you calculated and you get 8-10. | |
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Rewind Kabalite Warrior
Posts : 221 Join date : 2016-05-12 Location : Surrey
| Subject: Re: Raiding Force 1000 pts Tue Apr 10 2018, 12:29 | |
| Ohh, Thank you | |
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BlackCadian Kabalite Warrior
Posts : 191 Join date : 2014-10-12
| Subject: Re: Raiding Force 1000 pts Tue Apr 10 2018, 12:52 | |
| That looks really nice and fun to play.
You have to deduct 1 CP for Alliance of Agony though. You get 4+3 minus 1 plus D3. So 7-9.
The Ravagers might make good targets for Screaming Jets if going against a very shooty army in case they go first. I know my opponents like to target them early but thats meta-dependend.
And yes, the Coven does seem like a tax, I’m running into the same issue with my own lists unfortunately. Basically the only advantage is an extra warlord trait, a re-roll for the Haemi and the potential to get 2 more CPs. Versus whatever else you can buy for those points instead, like another patrol of Kabalites from Flayed Skull for instance. Not sure whats better to be honest. _________________ Check out my Kabal of the Withering Gardens - http://www.thedarkcity.net/t12351-kabal-of-the-withering-gardens
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Midknight Archon Slave
Posts : 14 Join date : 2018-04-09
| Subject: Re: Raiding Force 1000 pts Tue Apr 10 2018, 12:59 | |
| I personally like the addition of a small coven detachment as a backfield objective holder, use black cornicopians if they get whittled down or as an emergency redeploy into enemy territory | |
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Melkor Hellion
Posts : 57 Join date : 2012-08-03
| Subject: Re: Raiding Force 1000 pts Tue Apr 10 2018, 13:11 | |
| Fair enough, I do need to spend that point on Alliance of Agony.
The problem with jetting the Ravagers is that the Archon won't be able to keep up. I want them to have those rerolls.
On Coven: I'd kinda like the Wracks to be 10 strong and use the Prophets of Flesh strategem, but it feels not worth it in the end. Ultimately I feel like I'm getting a middling objective holder plus 1d3 cp for 139 points as is. Is it worth it? Maybe, I'm not sure yet.
On Scourges: Haywire Blaster is definitely the wrong choice here. I'm thinking of downgrading Lellith to a Succubus and doing a little tinkering to take Blasters. That causes its own imperfections, but that's the way of the world. | |
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Midknight Archon Slave
Posts : 14 Join date : 2018-04-09
| Subject: Re: Raiding Force 1000 pts Tue Apr 10 2018, 13:14 | |
| Remember, the ravagers don't need to deepstrike away from the Archon. Just use it to keep them off the table for turn 1 bombardments | |
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sumguy777 Kabalite Warrior
Posts : 215 Join date : 2017-01-15
| Subject: Re: Raiding Force 1000 pts Wed Apr 11 2018, 23:18 | |
| Why no vehicles? They are even better now | |
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Melkor Hellion
Posts : 57 Join date : 2012-08-03
| Subject: Re: Raiding Force 1000 pts Wed Apr 11 2018, 23:53 | |
| I'm afraid I don't understand. I have 2 Raiders and 2 Ravagers. What am I lacking? | |
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Mikoneo Kabalite Warrior
Posts : 173 Join date : 2016-12-31
| Subject: Re: Raiding Force 1000 pts Wed Apr 11 2018, 23:53 | |
| Just a small note, placing the raider from the cult detachment in the black heart detachment will give it the feel no pain and still allow it to transport the wyches | |
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Melkor Hellion
Posts : 57 Join date : 2012-08-03
| Subject: Re: Raiding Force 1000 pts Thu Apr 12 2018, 00:04 | |
| Yes you are right on that. I had a small misunderstanding on the rules implications when i wrote this list. | |
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