Dark techromancer cronos

Wondering if anyone has run DT cronos recently and if so, how do they do? A unit of 3 with a single spirit probe for re-roll 1s to wound is 215 points. That's 21 wounds at T6/7 with Haemi nearby, 3+/6++/5+ FNP. Spirit syphon is going to give 3d6, S6 AP-2 attacks that always hit, and wound most things on a 2+. I'm not sure how the D2 on 6's to wound works with DT, as the language is ambiguous. I guess you don't get that benefit as DT already bumps every attack to D2.

The unit isn't going to put out a ton of hurt, but if you can get it into combat, especially with another fighty unit nearby to benefit from the Reservoir of Pain, it could be a pretty hard to move block. Thoughts?

DT Cronos, Cronoi, Cronoses, well, whatever... They already hit the tournaments.
Take a look at that! 1st place Flying Monkey is a Drukhari list with 4 of them.

Woah. He's actually using 6 Cronos all armed with spirit vortex. No Haemonculous though, which is interesting. OK well good to know that these babies are competitive. I just received 3 talos/cronos and am considering whether to run them as talos or cronos. Why do you think the raiders are being run as coven? +1 to wound +1 to damage on dark lances seems is only going to be useful against models with T7 and 5+ wounds

I'm confused a little by this:

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Matt’s brand of Drukhari is very similar to my own post-FAQ list… which frankly makes sense because he and I had discussed the utility of the Cronos to cover for the significant lack of quality shooting from the post-FAQ army.

from https://www.goonhammer.com/competitive-innovations-in-9th-big-summer-blowout-pt-2/.

1) do we lack significant quality shooting? We can load up on lots of dark lances, blasters, heat lances, etc.

2) do cronos make up for that? With sprit vortexes and spirt syphon with DT, you are looking at up to 12 S6, AP-2 d2 shots, but at 12" range for the syphon and the potential to kill a talos with 3 1's to hit, there's a significant trade off. Am I missing something? I suppose you don't have to use DT on the spirt vortex, which mitigates the potential for causing lots of d3 mortal wounds, with the tradeoff of the vortex being strength 5 and only D2 on 6's to wound

duckduckgoose wrote:

Why do you think the raiders are being run as coven? +1 to wound +1 to damage on dark lances seems is only going to be useful against models with T7 and 5+ wounds

DT adds +1 to the woundroll. That makes a Dark Lance auto wounding T4 or lower, wounding T5-7 on 2s and T8 on 3s.
And the damage goes up to D3+4. That is pretty nasty. Of course doing so, prevents you from rerolling hits.

Edit: I think the lack of quality shooting is adressed to Coven units.

Ah I didn't realize that DT can take you down to wounding on 1s, guess that makes sense though. With that in mind, making the raiders DT makes more sense, though I guess it would depend on what you're facing.

What are your thoughts on exactly how to use cronos?

I never used a Chronos, but I would let them be closely followed by a Master Regenerist, so they get +1T and heal 3W every movement phase.
Could be a tough nut to crack. And it definetly keeps a lot of firepower away from your other units.

Ups, right. I forgot the rule of rolling a 1. My bad, I apologize.

Thanks for the clarification on the 1s to wound sekac. I think I will build 3 cronos and try them out as DT and also AotF, backed up by a master regenecist haemi. I think that could be a pretty tough unit, putting out 6d6 s5 ap-2 shots, or better with DT. Even if they don’t kill that much I think they will draw attention from other units

I think I'll run a block of 3 in my next 1500 point game as DT and see how they do! I agree being careful about when to enhance spirit vortex is key. It seems like it would be fairly easy to kill a cronos with just a little bad rolling

3 what? Chronos or Raider?

Sorry, 3 cronos! I also have 3 raiders but usually run them as obsidian rose, though I may try DT raiders at some point

Hmm, the longer I think about it, the more I want to try DT Hexrifle and Ossefactor.

Yeah, I am also going to run 2x5 wracks with hextrifle and ossefactor as backfield campers. They might get lucky 1 or 2 times during the game and take out a support character or something like that.

I'm a big fan of Darktechno raiders and wrack shooting. Played with 6 squads of Hexrifles and Ossifactors, was great for chipping away at characters and vehicles. Planning on taking a full 9 squads with 6 cronos next time.

I run 6 DT Cronos as well and yes, they don't need any Haemonculus.
In fact, one of the strongest way to play them is on flank. With 3CPs you can put all 6 of them on flank, giving to you a lot of room for hiding Raiders, and good pressure on your opponent.
Of course it's not mandatory, but it's powerful most of the times

Here! is another competitive DT Chronos list. Looks like it really rocked.

Do you think Dark Lances are better than Disintegrators on DT Raiders?

I know Dark Lances are usually better but when you've got +1 to wound (and damage) I'd have thought 3 S5 AP-3 D3 shots would be preferable to 1 S8 AP-4 Dd3+3 shot.

But every 1 to hit gives D3 mortals. Crippling your own Transports could go pretty fast.

Zenotaph wrote:

But every 1 to hit gives D3 mortals. Crippling your own Transports could go pretty fast.

Even so, you're still capped at d3 Mortal wounds per weapon.

Though I'll grant you're more likely to suffer those d3 wounds when you're firing 3 times as many shots.

Wright. I got it, I got it. :pol!: