New Vampire Counts/DE ideas

And the new Vampire Counts have been leaked..... Click the link to go the Warseer post with attachments....

Visit http://www.warseer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5988177&postcount=1640 for the Coven Throne, Vargheists, Witch King, new Krell and Isabella plus a Von Carstein upgrade pack

Then visit http://www.warseer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5988194&postcount=1642 for the Mortis Engine, Crypt Horrors, Black Knights, Hex Wraiths and Army Book and Cards.

I think this is one of the best releases for a while, some amazing sculpts in there.

I'll be getting the Coven Throne and Isabella for my Dark Eldar, I wouldn't be surprised to see some Isabella based Malys conversions crop up here and there.

EDIT: Crypt Horrors = possible Grotesques?

Thanks Sky. The Coven Throne/Mortis Engine is simply brilliant, and perfect for DE as well. I will be incorporating elements of those into my army for sure.

Yeah, we will be seeing many Isabella conversions in DE, and also some Vargheists/Crypt Horrors methinks. I already have two Ghoul Kings from the Terrorgheist as Ur-ghuls, they are fantastic models, and these are just as good.

Will definitely be using those wings for both Scourge-, Grotesque- and 'Nid-related work.

1) Raider
2) Coven Throne
3) ????
4) Vect and pimp-mobile?

I like the vargheist better for grots, just put some vials and tubes and bam... The crypt horrors are too feral imho.

Edit: So appearantly they are the same kit... How the heck do the bodies look so different??? makes me wonder if there are more bodies than legs... or maybe its just the arms that make all the difference...

Gobsmakked wrote:

Yeah, we will be seeing many Isabella conversions in DE

This - very much so.

If anyone has managed to see a picture of the new Vampire Count models to be coming out, the Crypt Horrors should make some awesome Grotesques when suitably converted, and with a mask borrowed from a Talos.

For those of you who haven't seen them, here's a link to the BoLS thread showing them.

Good idea I am using some rat ogres for mine

When we got the pics last week for the latest WER recording (shamless plug!) i said the exact same thing!

1 talos plus 2 boxes of these should result in 5 grots and still manage a complete talos!

There's a thread in GW Rumours discussing the new Vampire Counts and how quite a few of the new models would fit well into a Dark Eldar army, already called the grotesque conversions.

I expect to see many Isabella Archons.

EDIT: Threads merged, original thread renamed.

I do not even know how the Mortis Engine/Coven Throne even fits into any Dark Eldar conversion unless you want to make a diorama of a Casket of Flensing unleashing its power.

But I would agree with the Crypt Horrors being a viable base for Grotesque conversions. I am now split between these guys and the Everblight Warspears as the base for my Grotesque conversions.

Crisis_Vyper wrote:

I do not even know how the Mortis Engine/Coven Throne even fits into any Dark Eldar conversion unless you want to make a diorama of a Casket of Flensing unleashing its power.

I am eyeballing all of the skulls, skeletons and ghostly apparitions that come with this kit. I also think that the structure might be suitable for basing a throne for Vect.

The Coven Throne also comes with three female Vampires which, together with the new Isabella, should make for some terrific Medusae-, Archon-, Malys-conversions. Bloodbrides even?

Crisis_Vyper wrote:

I do not even know how the Mortis Engine/Coven Throne even fits into any Dark Eldar conversion unless you want to make a diorama of a Casket of Flensing unleashing its power.

I recently decided that I will be using 3 Wracks in a Venom but had a hard time working out how to make that work in the theme of my army. I settled on them representing Duke's drugged up, battle lusted concubines and wives, riding around in a Venom off their heads, shooting stuff for the lulz.

Any how I have a Bretonnian Sorceress or two, a Lhamean and the new Isabella to make the foot girls and then the vampires from the throne to lay in the Venom.

Oh and the throne itself looks very similar to the style of the Wrack's 'racks' and will form a basis of a Wrack venom in the future.

Gobsmakked wrote:

Crisis_Vyper wrote:

I do not even know how the Mortis Engine/Coven Throne even fits into any Dark Eldar conversion unless you want to make a diorama of a Casket of Flensing unleashing its power.

I also think that the structure might be suitable for basing a throne for Vect.

hellios wrote:

1) Raider
2) Coven Throne
3) ????
4) Vect and pimp-mobile?

This was my line of thought... Obviously it depends what look you want and the actual size of the model and how many bits it comes in... details and so on.

I got my Coven Throne today.

There are ALOT of nice parts for those who love a good kit bash. The Vampire heads are seperate for Hekatrix and Succubus conversions, as are their arms. The Throne comes in lots of different sections, ideal for pimping Venoms and Raiders everywhere while the bone constructs remind me a lot of the Wrack's backs.

Worth a look for any serious modellers.

Sky, I wonder how with... breakability of this kit.
It looks so fragile that I would consider releasing it as metal-resin hybrid if I would be producer.

The big ghoul things would make eays grotesque conversions. Just slap some extra talos masks on them and call it a day. I migth get a box for just that purpose.

Already converted the Tomb Banshee into a Mandrake champion (I forget what the name is in the Codex).

Replaced outstretched arm with serrated blade from one of the Wracks and the Archon's soultrap replaces the other arm to represent balefire.

Gobsmakked I love your conversions. I can't wait to see what you do with the models.

Are you going to Gottacon? I should hopefuly have my army painted for it.

colinsherlow wrote:

Gobsmakked I love your conversions. I can't wait to see what you do with the models.

Are you going to Gottacon? I should hopefuly have my army painted for it.

Thanks very much Colin. In spite of Sky's rave review, I will unfortunately have to wait a while before I do anything with these luv'ly new VC models. I have way too much of a backlog already and there's new 'Nids almost here!!!!!!! Gottacon's a no-go too, have never actually been

But a Coven Throne and some Vargheists are very definitely in my future!

Well, I've managed to pick up a Coven Throne today, I'll have to look and see if it's possible to have the palanquin added to the back of a Raider. Also, I'll be checking just how possible it is to have one of the Mortis Engine Banshee's swirling downwards into the soul-trap of an Archon.

I approve of this plan and the reporting back.

Ok, just off a quick look, it looks like it might be possible to include the "throne" from the Coven Throne, although you'll need to modify the rudder of the Raider, and the pilot will be fairly squashed, if you manage to even fit him. Other than that, I don't plan on converting the material to look like the rest of the Raider, particularly, although I'll be smoothing away the cobble-stone floor of the throne. The throne is supported by a spine-looking thing, that would blend in with the anti-grav ribbing of the Raider, and has a lump of bones and rock hanging under the top level itself.
Since this will be for the Raider of my Archon and his Court, I'll be including the 'handmaidens' to represent some Lhamaean escorts. Now I've just got to figure out how to convert up a sitting (preferably reclining) male Archon...

Aroshamash wrote:

Now I've just got to figure out how to convert up a sitting (preferably reclining) male Archon...

Vampire Lord from the Zombie Dragon kit? He's already reclining nicely (silly me is trying to make him stand up straight for an upright Vect).

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat720003a&prodId=prod1290005a

Hmm... I've even got one of those lying around when I bought that for my Dark Elves (Male Sorceror on Black Dragon, so he uses Necromancy/Dark Magic, hence riding on a Zombie Dragon counts-as). I'll have to check it out.

As a Vampirecount player I like the new models and will be getting some of the new kits.

How much spare bits do you end up with if you do the Mortis Engine from the kit?