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Skari Wych
Posts : 935 Join date : 2011-12-12 Location : Canada
| Subject: Re: The Dark Journey, (Army Development,Tactica and Pics!) Tue Jan 24 2012, 13:45 | |
| So. Game 3, against the Imperiums Grindhouse. Mech IG. Dawn of War, one objective each. His List: Senior officer- 4 MG in Chimera 2 Vet Squads - 3 MG in Chimeras 2 30 Man Blobs with PW's and Commissars, one group with lascannons one with autocannons. 2 Vendettas each with a platoon command 4 Flamers Psyker Battle Squad (8 strong) in Chimera Manticore 2 Hydras Total- 1850 - Quote :
- I was terrified of the hydra and the vendettas, but this is def one of the hardest matchups for the Dark Kin, so I was up for a good game!
I took my regular 1850list. He took turn 1, and I reserved my entire army. So he had turn 1 and turn 2 to shoot at nothing while he got into position, and get into position he did (note: one of the objectives is in the cathedral the other bottom right next to crater surrounded by 30 men) So, my turn 2. Only a ravager and the jetbikes arrived together with the raider with 10 warriors, they deployed and engaged the chimera in the ruins, the bikes stunned the PBS chimera and the ravager failed to do any damage to one of the valks (just shaking it). The razorwing on the other hand, had a bead on the 30 man lascannon blob out in the open from his vantage point, and blasted them until only 1 lascannon and a few infantry were left. His turn 3 saw swift retaliation, with the bikes biting the dust, and the ravager dying. On my turn 3 most of my reserved showed up, and they engaged the enemy full force, the wyches charged tanks and failed to kill them but made them block beads to them for firing. the Razorwing continued its rampage on the infantry after the first volley. The highlight of this turn was that every shot against the hydras bounced off... I was able to shake one. As well as immobilize the PBS chimera and take off some of its guns. The vendettas were untouched. His turn 4 sees my other ravager and the raiders taken out... as well as the warriors and wyches taking casualties. In my turn 4 I retaliate by assaulting with my wyches into hydras, chimeras and the blob squad his one vet squad annihilated my Incubi and the archon goes on a rampage to take out valks (but misses with his grenades) The turn 5, he has to try and contest the cathedral... valk flies in and drops the command squad ready to flame the warrior unit, killing 7 outa 10 the blaster lives and does not flee. He also brings out the PBS to make my warriors unit flee. I had to bring the heamies up to the cathedral to flame the occupants... the wyches pull his squad off the objective while my wracks make it up towards his objective and assault the contesting hydras... still unable to touch them. I knock out the valk and contest the central objective. Roll.... Turn 6! He has to move the last vendetta to the objective as well... also shoots as much as he can on the razorwing and I make all saves... So we continue the combat, wyches vs blob and nothing happens... the objectives are contested... and the game is a -Draw- Tactical Notes: - Having even 3 wyches with FNP holding up a blob squad was awesome. - The razorwing volley is amazing if you can catch a unit like Guardsmen in the open. - I had to be very agressive once my shooting was innefective, keep a cool head and just rush. Smartly, but rush nonetheless. Cheers! (still to come: vs SW, SW, Crons and Crons) | |
| | | Skari Wych
Posts : 935 Join date : 2011-12-12 Location : Canada
| Subject: Re: The Dark Journey, (Army Development,Tactica and Pics!) Tue Jan 31 2012, 03:26 | |
| Ok so a bit of a delay on the games so far. Here are some pics from a game vs SW that I lost, kill points. I decided to reserve everything and take him out that way... but I had no clue that each of his ranged shots would fire true and take out a tank, so I quickly fell behind. Although I began to claw my way back towards the end of the game, I was unable to table his 8 KP and I lost 8 KP to 7. Tactical notes: The Archons shadowfield held up all the thunderwolves! He made over 25 shadowfield saves; Sometimes you just can't fail that 2++ And there you have it. A defeat. On another note, I did have a rematch against this same list right after this game. The mission favoured the DE a bit better, Dawn of War and multiple objectives. Tabled by turn 4. | |
| | | kenny3760 Sybarite
Posts : 462 Join date : 2011-06-15 Location : Inverness Scotland
| Subject: Re: The Dark Journey, (Army Development,Tactica and Pics!) Tue Jan 31 2012, 15:27 | |
| What was his list, it looks to be all foot slogging. From the amount of terrain on the table I'm suprised that you reseved everything. It looks like the trees, buildings and the large dome would have given you cover on your skimmers. By reserving it looks like you gave him 2 turns to get into position and open up all the fire lanes. On of the disadvantages of reserving, is losing a lot of stuff if it comes in piecemeal and I always reckon that a long fangs pack pointing at a skimmer = a dead vehicle.
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| | | Skari Wych
Posts : 935 Join date : 2011-12-12 Location : Canada
| Subject: Re: The Dark Journey, (Army Development,Tactica and Pics!) Tue Jan 31 2012, 20:23 | |
| Thanks for the comment.
His list included the 2 units of longfangs, Njal and another living lightning priest... a lot of shooting at long range. He had first turn and had I deployed i had a potential 6 transports going down turn 1. Reserving was actually a good choice, given that the venoms could show up and eliminate the long fangs in turn (getting the jump on them) which they did... just so happened that all his return fire hit home, and hit home hard. 4 hits with living lightning against tank = 4 pens = 4 failed saves...
A few more things plagued my game like wyches bouncing off a GH unit (i rolled very poorly) and the SW player making any and all saves he needed to make from the bladevanes on the bikes...
The army did not show up in piecemeal, I was able to really put the pressure on his line. I could have rushed one flank with more, but I wanted to force the thunder wolves to commit to a side of the table and then deal with the rest of the army... on a sidenote, my archon living also meant that I was unable to shoot the Twolves to death when I had the chance.
Regardless I did begin to claw my way back, and had it gone to turn 7 I could have tabled my opponent. All he had left were the remnants of the TW squad.
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| | | Skari Wych
Posts : 935 Join date : 2011-12-12 Location : Canada
| Subject: Re: The Dark Journey, (Army Development,Tactica and Pics!) Thu Feb 02 2012, 19:31 | |
| So, right after the last game (game 4 of the series) I decided to have at it once again. The kabal had almost succeeded given the bad mission and lack of cover and ff saves, almost clawed its way back to a victory... only to be taken away at the last moment. We re-set the table and rolled for mission once more. This time, with multiple objectives and a dawn of war deployment I felt a lot more confident. We rolled off, and my opponent smartly gave me first turn. I deployed a raider with wyches and a heamy up on my half way line. He deployed 2 units of Grey hunters and Nijal on the table... I don't know if he knew... but this meant that my wyches were getting a first turn charge on Nijal and his unit. Of course I brought my army in (except for the razorwing) on turn 1... and put the pressure on. My wyches bounced from the combat... but did put a wound on the caster and forced the unit to "pop" its banner. He then moved up and proceeded to wreck the wych raider and get into better positions with his units. The Heamonculus was unharmed! The game went rather quickly. I focused on Nijal's squad to take them out as well as the one unit of longfangs towards the center. The Incubi and archon went after another GH squad and eliminated it to a man. The warrior unit got onto the landing pad, and safely from the second level (from the thunderwolves) began to whittle down the enemy forces. His turn saw his one remaining long fang pack do little damage, the Twolves charge into the incubi, once again my archon tied them up in combat... This meant that I was unable to fire onto the unit. My reaver jetbikes bladevaned the other unit of longfangs to death (what a roll) and I focussed on the third and last GH squad with the other runepriest. My vehicles then formed a circle around the thunderwolves who promptly killed the archon. He charged vehicles and failed to do any damage... In my return fire, I manage to take out all the Twolves... the lord is left alive... but with that, he ceded the game. Fast, brutal... the best way to play DE. Tactical Notes: Dawn of war and multiple objectives really helps the DE, we get to move fast onto the table, have night vision and can get last grabs onto objectives. His army was on foot and none of his units ever ventured further than 12" from his table edge. He did make a huge mistake by placing his main caster so close to my army... for a first turn charge, this could have been devastating... as I was on him turn 2 he did not really have enough time to react and I was able to pull ahead steadily. Stay tuned for games 6,7 and 8! Cheers | |
| | | red_head Sybarite
Posts : 284 Join date : 2011-10-28 Location : Germany
| Subject: Re: The Dark Journey, (Army Development,Tactica and Pics!) Thu Feb 02 2012, 22:02 | |
| Thanks again, I especially enjoyed the last game, even if it wasn't too detailed.
Looking forward to reading the next reports. | |
| | | Skari Wych
Posts : 935 Join date : 2011-12-12 Location : Canada
| Subject: Re: The Dark Journey, (Army Development,Tactica and Pics!) Fri Feb 03 2012, 20:24 | |
| You are very welcome. Stay tuned for more to come | |
| | | Skari Wych
Posts : 935 Join date : 2011-12-12 Location : Canada
| Subject: Re: The Dark Journey, (Army Development,Tactica and Pics!) Mon Feb 06 2012, 02:02 | |
| Games 6,7 and 8 were all against necrons, so we shall call them 6.1 6.2 and 6.3. (As I want to get as many games in as possible with as many different opponents and these games have a great deal of overlap for a few reasons: - Same armies for both sides all three games. - Same opponent for all three games. - Same table for all three games (we changed the terrain up for the third game). So, on to the necron list. Now it is interesting to note that he has zero tanks. Nemesor + Obyron (love this combo) Destroyer lord 5 Cryptecs with S8 ap2 assault 36" guns, one with the solar pulse, one with the gaze of flame. 1 Lord with a PW, weave and resorb (in the liche guard) 6 Lyche Guard with shields and power weapons 5 Squads of 5 necron warriors. 6 Wraiths (couple of particle casters, couple of lashwips) 8 Scarabs 8 Scarabs So, a lot of one off shots with some very decent cc in the list. (he has, since our last 3 games) tweaked this list to be even more focused on its general purpose. But I digress. First mission was victory points with objectives as a secondary, and dawn of war. He went first, and decided to deploy nemesor with a squad of warriors in a building in the middle of the table. I reserved everything. He spent the first couple of turns moving into position: He his third turn saw him prepare for the inevitable arrival of greater of my forces: My third turn saw almost my entire army arrive, it was such an effective turn that I wiped out all the wraiths and lord, a whole unit of scarabs, and depleted some of the warrior units. I was also in a great position for the remainder of the game: After the alfa strike... my opponent was so demoralized that the towel was thrown in. We reset the table and went for another game! Victory for the DE: Tactical Notes from game 6.1: - When the alfa strike works, it works very, very well. - This did not really showcase either of our armies... but did show that with a bit of luck a DE shooting phase can be brutal. Next game 6.2 the rematch . Cheers! | |
| | | Skari Wych
Posts : 935 Join date : 2011-12-12 Location : Canada
| Subject: Re: The Dark Journey, (Army Development,Tactica and Pics!) Wed Feb 08 2012, 16:04 | |
| Fellow journeymen. Part of the recipie for Kabal grendeur is the evolution of nones list. I would like to verse you all in the dynamics behind list tweaking and its importance. One of the most important parts of the 20 game journey is this; to tune ones list in the hope that no matter the opponent it will perform well and provide results on the tabletop. I wanted to give you all an idea by providing the general evolution of the list that I have been using for the 20 game journey. We will start with the original list where I will also give a few notes on the reasoning behind the creation of the list. They I will note the stages of list development and will also note as to the reasoning behind each change made. Now, its important to note that there are no drastic changes for a reason. One of the mistakes that I find people make regularly is scrap a concept because of one bad game or bad showing. I see why someone would do thos, especially when you can't have very frequent games to test ideas out. I fins that making drastic changes hampers the general knowledge of use of an army as it does not accurately reflect the nature or use of all units when facing the enemy, it also drastically changes the dynamics within said list and the its overall homogeny. And on that note we shall begin with my basic list:
Archon (PGL, Agon, splint pistol, shadowfield, combat drugs) 2 Heamies with Liquifiers
4 Incubi Venom Dual Cannon
9 wyches, hex w/agon, 1 wych weapon, HWG Raider FF 9 wyches, hex w/agon, 1 wych weapon, HWG Raider FF 10 Warriors, syb, SC, bl Raider FF 5 warriors Bl Venom dual cannon 3 wracks Venom Dual cannon
6 RJB 2 heatlances, champ
Ravager FF, NS RavagerFF, NS Razorwing, SC, dissies, FF
Total 1850
Ok, so basic notes: The army was a basis to work on, mostly using models that I had available. The biggest driver in creating this new list was to make a switch from the baron and his hellions. I had run that list for over a year and now it wa time for a switch. The units are geared to certain purpose and the heamies are there to of course give FNP fo the wyches. The wracks offer a cheap venom and pain token for the archon + incubi as well as deckchair potential for the army. The larger warrior unit provides some muscle and abalative wounds and the incubi + archon provide another psychological aspect of fear and have the capacity to wipe out entire marine equivalent units with ease. Wich in a marine lover environment is amazing to have.
So, with these basics I set off on my journey. Dragging you all along with me. But I was quick to realize certain flaws in the list that I did not feel comfortable with. So, what was the main change going to be? Would I overcome these downfalls? Stay tuned for the next installment(as well as more tactical reports)
Cheers! | |
| | | Skari Wych
Posts : 935 Join date : 2011-12-12 Location : Canada
| Subject: Re: The Dark Journey, (Army Development,Tactica and Pics!) Tue Feb 14 2012, 17:07 | |
| So, after a bit of a break from all this writing here is game 6.2: Same table, same armies. The game played almost the same at the last one. I also took the wraiths out pretty quickly, but this time he was in a better position to do damage to my army. As multiple objectives, primary was a down right draw, with all objectives contested. There was one move that cost me the game, I moved up a warrior squad to the center of the table and then they got eaten by the lyche guard. Instead I should have just kept them on an objective on my bottom right and blocked with all my tanks. Because the second game went so fast I only took one pic: Ok. So, on to game 6.3, same lists. This time It was a pitched battle and I decided to deploy everything(except the razorwing of course) rather than just reserve. My opponent then proceeded to steal the initiative! But luckily only did minimal damage to my army. I was very aggressive this game and went on an all out offensive. Turn 3 there was a major mistake on my opponents behalf, he kept his destroyer lord with his wraiths, and when they attempted to charge my wyches in the centre of the table they failed to reach them with the terrain test. Had the destroyer lord left the squad, they would have made it, because wraiths ignore terrain. So, in the end I won this third game rather easily once the wraiths were out of the picture. Other things of note include his main character bunker failing a key moral test. Tactical notes: - The more I play with the same list, the more confident I am in the various abilities of the units in my army. In my previous post I talked about the changes that I will be doing to my list, but in these three games (and two more after that) I remained using the same exact army. - When playing against crons, wraiths must die. And scarabs must be tied up, FNP wyches work great! Especially if they have WS 5 (scarabs are WS2 so they hit them on 5's) - Lyche Guard need poison shots dumped into them... a lot of poison. In combat they usually kill more than the wraiths! - There might not be a phase out any more, but still remain agressive. In a war of attrition the crons will win, so you have to get in there and knock them out quickly. Cheers! - Stay tuned! Next two games, 7.1 and 7.2 against the deadly Tyrannid Swarms! | |
| | | Darkgreen Pirate Sybarite
Posts : 302 Join date : 2012-01-06 Location : The Great White North
| Subject: Re: The Dark Journey, (Army Development,Tactica and Pics!) Tue Feb 14 2012, 18:10 | |
| +1 for the timmys cup on the table Awesome battle reports, love the pics. Can't wait to read/see more! Thanks Skari! | |
| | | Skari Wych
Posts : 935 Join date : 2011-12-12 Location : Canada
| Subject: Re: The Dark Journey, (Army Development,Tactica and Pics!) Sun Feb 19 2012, 15:27 | |
| Timmies = win / long night of gamin.
Hehe. | |
| | | Skari Wych
Posts : 935 Join date : 2011-12-12 Location : Canada
| Subject: Re: The Dark Journey, (Army Development,Tactica and Pics!) Thu Feb 23 2012, 02:20 | |
| Series 7.1 and 7.2. Dark Eldar against the nasty nids! His list, he has been trying out this new list: HQ/ Swarmlord Hive Tyrant with Heavy V-Cannon, Lashwip and Bonesword. Elites/ Deathleaper 3 Zoans in pod 1 Venomthrope Troop/ 10 Deathgaunts in pod 5 warriors? With assortment of weapons Tervigon 10 Steelers with Broodlord Carnifex in pod This list is basically a reserve denial army... they have +2 to reserve rolls and a lot of things in pods. DE should give this type of this a good thrashing. For one poison will eat large creatures alive and second we can counter reserve and not deploy, waiting for his stuff to show and then counter it effectively. First game dawn of war Multiple objectives... I did exactly that. The bladevanes took out the deathleaper in one fell swoop. I did take some heavy casualties, and the brood lord took out the archon after he almost killed the carnifex: Anyway. I held the objectives that I needed to hold. Tactical Notes: - Swarmlord is nasty! Shoot him, although if he has FNP this is hard to do with poison, so try soak lances into him. - Tervigons must die, as well as venomthropes... they can really sting if we don't deal with them early. Overall, Dark eldar a well suited to fight nids. As for 7.2 the mission was about the same, This time I placed a 10 man warrior unit in a raider as bait, they ended up being a lot more than bait surviving volley after volley of enemy fire until at last they fell to a carnifex in combat... turn 3 . But the same tactical notes take precedence. I was able to win this game as well making sure my overwhelming firepower and good cc ability was felt. In my next post I shall talk about the switch to my list as well as the two games that I have had so far with it! Stay Tuned. Cheers! | |
| | | Skari Wych
Posts : 935 Join date : 2011-12-12 Location : Canada
| Subject: Re: The Dark Journey, (Army Development,Tactica and Pics!) Fri Feb 24 2012, 16:29 | |
| Thanks for the comments and rep! That really helps the thread out and keeps me motivated. Anyway. I thought this would be a good time to get started on the first major tweak that I made to the list that I have been playing. Go back to the previous posts to look for my original list. So, from the games that I have played there are a few things that I noticed. - Need more lances. - Heatlances on the jetbikes... I don't really like them. - Wanted to include the infamous "blasterborn" - 9 man wych units are too big (I find that 6-8 wyches are usually good enough for any task, they either live or die no matter how many) Because of the investment of the Heamies I went with the larger squads to make up for FNP. - Quote :
- Note: It is important when testing a particular army and list to NOT make the changes to a list too drastic, it is important to become comfortable with a list to the point where playing it is like clock work. This is key! If you make too many changes then each time is like starting over from the start. So something to keep in mind.
So, this is the list that I came up with with the new tactical knowledge that I have acquired: HQ/Archon (145pts) Shadow Field, Agonizer, Combat Drugs, Phantasm GrenadeLauncher, Splinter Pistol. 2 Heamies with Liquigiers (120pts) Elites/4 Incubi in Venom with dual cannon 3 Trueborn with 3 blasters in Venom with dual cannon Troops/8 Wyches, 1 wweapon, Hex with agon, HW grenades in Raider with FF. 8 Wyches, 1 wwepon, Hex with agon, HW grenades in Raider with FF. 5 Warriors Blaster in Venom dual Cannon 5 Warriors Blaster in Raider with FF 3 Wracks Fast Attack/6 Reaver Jetbikes, 2 Blasters, Champion - 172pts Heavy Support/Ravager 3 lances, FF & Night Shield Ravager 3 lances, FF & Night Shield Razorwing, 2 dissies, splinter cannon, 4 mono missiles, flicker field Total is 1848pts (out of 1850) We can see that there are only a few changes to the army itself... I lost 5 warriors a syb and the cannon from the raider unit... but what did I gain? I upgraded the heatlances to blasters on the jetbikes, and added the 3 trueborn with 3 more blasters (all I had to do was transfer the venom from the wracks to the trueborn). So all in all I got 5 more AT weapons and only really lost 4 model count. IMO a great addition to the army as this increases my mid ranged AT capability. There is only one thing that I dislike from the list... 2 points under. Arg... so I will see what I do to make that less of an issue... I like it when my lists are on the nose. Anyway. Thanks for reading through. My next game the first game with this list was against space marines and ill post the rep up soon. Cheers! Comments and rep appreciated . | |
| | | Skari Wych
Posts : 935 Join date : 2011-12-12 Location : Canada
| Subject: Re: The Dark Journey, (Army Development,Tactica and Pics!) Tue Feb 28 2012, 20:46 | |
| Also, you can follow the journey as well on my channel :Skared Cast 2 more batreps are up. But not before you have read the debut batrep for the new and improved list: Game 8: Vs Space Marines! (for an elite army they sure are all over the place) :p. Sadly, there are no pictures for this endeavour... but I shall attemp to be as brief but as informative as possible. My list: See above post for my revamped list. His list: Forgefather with servitors (a few HB's) 2 x 10 man tac squads with ML, Fl and sarges had no upgrades. Ironclad Dread in pod. Dread with Tl LC, ML Dread with Tl LC, ML 7 Assault Terminators (assortment) Land Raider crusader Terminator Chaplain 6 Sternguard in a HB razorback. Total - 1850pts ------------------------------------------------------- Mission Was Dawn of War and Mission was multiple objectives. He deployed the Techmarine and HB servitors up in mid field to prevent me taking the mid field, I had given him turn 1. I deployed the wracks with the archon out of LOS to keep their pain token. The objectives were concentrated centrally. My opponent did spread out and put one tac squad on either corner of the field (mistake). He moved on turn 1. The Ironclad dropped close to the wracks and the archon... near an objective and ran get begind cover. On my turn 1 I got both ravagers to spot the LRC that was speeding up the field, and blew it up... I had kept the razorwin and jetbikes in reserve to help deal with enemy movements later on. I played the wyches agressively and moved them up mid field and left flank to overload that flank. This would take my infantry away from the dreads (that could bog me down) and head on to the terminators that I would have to deal with at some point. The archon hopped into the incubi venom. On another note... on their first showing the trueborn moved up to spot the ironclad... and then failed to spot... twice! they were like 9" away... dang. His turn 2 saw both wych raiders down. Also the trueborn venom and the trueborn got plastered. (what a first showing! ) Far right wych squad was pinned. Then I began to pounce on my turn 2, the center wych unit walked into the techmarine... failed to kill him but stuck arround to prevent retaliation from enemy shooting (yay, this is key as keeping them alive in the centre makes them a threat as he tries to move up to support the other flank). Shooting was not as great as I would have hoped... the razorwing showed up and then blasted the terminators but only killed 2 of them. Shooting was not as effective as I would have hoped and the wyches finished off the techmarine (now becoming fearless!) Turn 3 Space marines saw the sterguard get out and fire cover ignoring rounds onto the wyches killing a few but below average rolls and FNP saw most of them survive. The dreads continued to move up, and the Ironclad (that had been drawn to the far left to deal with the trueborn) Began to treck towards the middle. The tac squad on the far right fired into the wyches and the terminators moved up further to assault a venom that I had used as bait the turn before. The razorwing is stunned from shooting. My turn 3 saw the archon + incubi boosting up the field behind a LOS blocking terrain. The unpinned wyches now charge the bunker that the tac squad was in, wrecking it... they become pinned! With the incubi venom too close for comfort (this was another key moment in the game, as this meant that no one could tackle the incubi venom! and they would annihilate that tac squad). The Bikes had arrived and boosted over the disembarked sternguard killing 2. The fearless wyches move up to charge the remnants and win combat, they actually get away... the wyches then consolidate to prevent their regrouping. Turn4: The terminators double back and try to charge the wyches they fail their terrain test. The chaplain breaks off and charges the heamy that was off to the flank with his scary liquifier then consolidates near the termies. The ironclad charges a smaller squad and murders it keeping close to an objective on that side of the table, so far my blasters have done nothing against him. My turn 4: The incubi and archon murder the tac squad. The wych squad that only had a few members left in the centre charge an advancing dread to tie it in place, that combat continued until the end of the game. The wyches charge the terminators while shooting takes out the vulnerable chaplain. The wyches hold and I think take out another terminator... after shooting and combat they are at 4 strong or so (he has been making good saves). The incubi venom flies over to stay within 6" of the sternguard... and escort them off the table (those no-cover bolter rounds can really hurt if I am not carefull). I also finally imobilize the ironclad. Turn 5 sees the termies continue to fight the wyches... I hold with a few left. Other than that the sternguard continue to flee. Shooting sees a few venoms fall. My turn 5 the incubi and archon assault the termies (now that they have FC as well! this makes quick work of the termies...) Freeing up the wyches to take another objective. The game ends here, with the Dark Eldar winning the game! Tactical Notes: - Take advantage of your opponents mistakes. In this case he spread out and I took full advantage. And that was the debut of the list, I did not mind the loss of bodies for the additional firepower. check out the channel for batreps 9 and 10! Vs space marines and space wolves respectively. Cheers. And stay tuned. Skari, out. | |
| | | Skari Wych
Posts : 935 Join date : 2011-12-12 Location : Canada
| Subject: Re: The Dark Journey, (Army Development,Tactica and Pics!) Wed Mar 07 2012, 20:39 | |
| Life update: I moved. I am waiting to have my first baby (any day now!) Will game when I can, ATM the future of the Kabal is of importance . | |
| | | red_head Sybarite
Posts : 284 Join date : 2011-10-28 Location : Germany
| Subject: Re: The Dark Journey, (Army Development,Tactica and Pics!) Sun Mar 11 2012, 12:51 | |
| Congratulations, have the "reserves" arrived yet? | |
| | | Siticus the Ancient Wych
Posts : 936 Join date : 2011-09-10 Location : Riga, Latvia
| Subject: Re: The Dark Journey, (Army Development,Tactica and Pics!) Sun Mar 11 2012, 13:13 | |
| Congratulations on your Trueborn! | |
| | | Skari Wych
Posts : 935 Join date : 2011-12-12 Location : Canada
| Subject: Re: The Dark Journey, (Army Development,Tactica and Pics!) Tue Mar 13 2012, 00:13 | |
| Hi all, thanks for the comments. Only news yet is that My Master Heamonculus is at work (still no labour actually only 5% of women give birth on their due date) Since this trueborn is also firstborn its normal for it to be delayed. In the meantime here is the next post:
Thanks. For the comments. Ok so, Here are the tactical notes for the 9th game that I had vs My brothers space marines. If you have not watched the batrep yet please do! This would be game 9 and the second game with the tweaked army list. [URL="https://www.youtube.com/user/SkaredCast?feature=mhee"]https://www.youtube.com/user/SkaredCast?feature=mhee[/URL]
Seek out Batrep 1.
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So, you are back from subscribing to my channel and liking the videos? Well, we move on!
This game was quite a tough one for me from the start and. With both ravagers and a raider blown up on the second turn! I was fighting an uphill battle. I was very lucky that my wyches held out as long as they did in his backfield forcing the terminators to help out on that side of the board, the Incubi did well but where then blocked off turn after turn by two rhinos and a rzrbck... meaning they would be unable to participate in the battle. The raider that contested the last objective got very lucky... even better was that the game was over fast! And the last turn contest + the final distruction of the damned land raider led me to the victory in that game.
So, what did I take from this? No matter how grim the battle seems from the start something can be done about it. Gather your witts about you, clear your head and aim for the objective of the game. With the Dark Kin you have to be making your enemy react to the choices that you make on the table, this will give you a great advantage when you make him react to your choices and therefore can sometimes even force their hand during a game.
My brother is a great general and facing off against him is always a blast. So, what do you think about the game?
Cheers | |
| | | Shadows Revenge Hierarch of Tactica
Posts : 2587 Join date : 2011-08-10 Location : Bmore
| Subject: Re: The Dark Journey, (Army Development,Tactica and Pics!) Tue Mar 13 2012, 14:59 | |
| congrats on the kid. May it not inpeed on your gaming (but we all know it will ) | |
| | | Viking Hellion
Posts : 46 Join date : 2011-12-29 Location : Virginia
| Subject: Re: The Dark Journey, (Army Development,Tactica and Pics!) Tue Mar 13 2012, 20:47 | |
| Congrats on the little one! Now get back to your game reports so I can learn more | |
| | | Skari Wych
Posts : 935 Join date : 2011-12-12 Location : Canada
| Subject: Re: The Dark Journey, (Army Development,Tactica and Pics!) Sat Mar 17 2012, 19:53 | |
| Hehe, I wish to serve! Quickie update.
With my move to Barrie went to one of the local GSs (Gamers Lair) to hang out and network with new people. I was challenged to games by two of the players there, relatively new to the game. Both games were 1750 as they were practicing for a tournament that is happening today actually. Anyhow, all I did was drop the archon, add an incubi and a few things here and there to make the list fit.
I am not counting these games as part of the official journey per say but I thought that posting a few pointers would be good. They were both relatively new players that did not have much experience especially against DE so lets say the games went fast and furious. I was not Trying to win at all costs but I was not trying to loose either.
First was against a warrior heavy necron army playing a wierd astronomicon battle mission. This was interesting as it forced you to reserve your army unless you rolled a 6 to deploy it. Then you would roll for the things that arrived and on a 1 or 6 they would arrive on the flanks! It was quite an interesting mission. My targetpriotiry stayer the same, I knocked out the barges and the arks and then used my superior range to knock out his units. He had to leave so we were unable to finish the game.
Second game was against a shrike marine list. He gave me first turn and I reserved everything to prevent a first turn assault with shrike. Then held my objective against 2 drop podding dreads and some vanguard vets while contesting the central objective and the one in his deployment zone with the jetbikes (that were awesome this game doing 14 hits with bladevanes every run!) the razorwing and a venom with warriors. He tapped out.
So, I did want to make a few notes. These are some pointers for newer players: - Make sure you use all the tools that you have in your list. If you keep that full squad in a corner doing nothing an experienced player with just ignore it and make mincemeat out of the units that you commit, you have to try and make all the unit in your army part of the full army and pieces in your strategy. - Read your rules, at the very least make sure you have read the full rulebook and your full army list and special rules... I cant stress this enough, it is very important to be able to play a smooth game and not get frustrated when rules that you dont know come up in a game.
And that is the most of it. It was nice to have people comment on my paint job as that is also a part of creating a list and playing with it. To paint it!.
Cheers | |
| | | Skari Wych
Posts : 935 Join date : 2011-12-12 Location : Canada
| Subject: Re: The Dark Journey, (Army Development,Tactica and Pics!) Wed Apr 04 2012, 22:58 | |
| Thanks to all who have been commenting on my 1500pt list.
I am expecting to play my brother that I played in this report: https://youtu.be/BFRnbsdKjhs This saturday we will be testing out our 1500pt lists, well he will be helping me test out my list for the tournament. I shall make sure to take many notes and of course film another video batrep.
As always fellow journeymen. Stay tuned!
Skari - Out. | |
| | | Skari Wych
Posts : 935 Join date : 2011-12-12 Location : Canada
| Subject: Re: The Dark Journey, (Army Development,Tactica and Pics!) Tue Apr 17 2012, 18:49 | |
| So a few more updates on the journey. Still getting used to 1500pts. You can find the game I had with my brother here: DE vs Space Marines
Watch it, what did I do horribly wrong?
And then I tested another version of the list in this batrep against space marines once more, but in a very tough mission for the DE: DE vs SM 2
Last but not least I discuss the tactica and the mission in this video: Tactica
I am really interested in hearing what the Dark City has to say as the Kabal continues its journey to greatness.
Also, tournament this weekend! Thats 4 games one after another, best testing ground ever for any list.
Cheers! | |
| | | Skari Wych
Posts : 935 Join date : 2011-12-12 Location : Canada
| Subject: Re: The Dark Journey, (Army Development,Tactica and Pics!) Mon Apr 23 2012, 23:08 | |
| Have not updated the Journey in a while, but here is a quick one. Have had quite a few more games at 1500pts and I am starting to get used to the point value. This weekend I went to a local tournament 4 rounds 1500pts and took this list: Archon, Agon, SF, FGL, Drugs - 145 4 Incubi in Venom with dual cannon and trophies 2 x 9 Wyches in Raiders with FF and trophies, hek with agon and HWG's 5 warriors blaster in raider 5 warriors blaster in venom with dual cannon 2 x 3 RBJ units with a Heatlance 5 Scourge with 2 HW blasters 2 Ravagers with FF. 1500pts on the nose. Now, how did the Kabal do? Well... lets see Game 1 vs CSM At the end of the game, he had a rhino and some guys in it left, he tapped out turn 4 before I tabled him. The mission was vp's with the General being worth double. His DP died pretty quickly. Game 2 vs Tau Very close game until turn 3 when I blew both HH up and assaulted the Broadsides with my wyches + archon. I was surprised that my army survived him stealing the initiative! I tabled him in 6. Game 3 vs Space Marines Mission was old school table quarters. I reserved everything because he had a shooty marine list. My army mostly arrived turn 3... and he tapped at the end of my turn 4 with 1 model left, he was rather disgusted that the DE wiped out his army in 2 turns. Then again, it was the sort of game where 4 incubi ran into 10 SM, 10/12 hits and 8/10 wounds... dead squad.... Game 4 vs GK I had a rough 2 turns and then turned it arround turn 4, game ended on 6 (not random) and he had 3 models left hiding from the rest of my army. All on all I did learn a few things: - I stil love my DE to death. - The grisly trophies were AMAZING! they prevented my units from being pinned after a tank explosion in almost every game... woth their weight in gold. - I was happy that I was able to do so well without heamies... I had to work for my pain tokens but that was ok. In the end I walked away with a nice Trophy for Best General and some prize money. I had a blast and cant wait till next time. Thanks for reading. | |
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