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PostSubject: Surrounding a LandRaider   Surrounding a LandRaider I_icon_minitimeMon Jan 23 2012, 09:13

So I'm thinking of some random, far out tactics to overpower certain enemies and wanted to put this up for discussion;

If a LandRaider has moved up to within 24" of our lines, troops still aboard and in our following phase could we look to Turbo Boost our Reavers (min 6) and another vehicle, say a Venom or Empty Raider, to land and surround the LandRaider, then in the shooting phase Ravagers/Trueborn could fire at it in an attempt to either stunlock, immobilise or wreck it, and basically disallowing the cargo onboard to disembark, both through the hatches and via Emergency Disembark....

What could go wrong? Well, the units of the shooting phase do not achieve what they need to, and the LR is still free to shoot and tank shock/ram Reavers/Venoms in its next phase.

What do you think? Too risky, too kamikaze like (if we move Flat Out both units get their respective cover saves of course...)
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PostSubject: Re: Surrounding a LandRaider   Surrounding a LandRaider I_icon_minitimeMon Jan 23 2012, 09:32

We have thread about it somewhere it tacits - look for it.
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PostSubject: Re: Surrounding a LandRaider   Surrounding a LandRaider I_icon_minitimeMon Jan 23 2012, 11:14

Azdrubael wrote:
We have thread about it somewhere it tacits - look for it.


Oh the one YOU started.....oh ok then, so how has this tactic worked for you.....?


I can see it being done with Reavers (have already done the measurements and all BASES are within 2") and having 2 methods up our sleeves.... 1) Turbo bost and surround with cover save or 2) fly under 12" to surround, then shoot point blank with HL's - won't get the cover save and if rolled a 6 we're screwed. The whole point is to dis-allow the troops inside to NOT disembark, and therefore become unit destroyed....
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PostSubject: Re: Surrounding a LandRaider   Surrounding a LandRaider I_icon_minitimeMon Jan 23 2012, 12:22

Point is - Reavers can be tank shocked, while Venoms only can be rammed with severe disadvantages. You can of coarse use DoG with Reaver but still , its still to chancy for that kind of commitment. If they will be able to move - they will be able to disembark troops and it will be a total failure.

Notable uses for tactic - i held Paladins inside their land raider for 2 turns, leaving me free to kill strike squads. After they at last did come out - they eated shattershard )) 2 survived ). Shattershard is the best weapon against Paladins and Terminators.

Well tactics itself is situational , i advice to look at it as stalling tactics. You probably wont be able to surround things and then blow them up in hope of killing passengers.

But it does have points. I ususally deploy in 2 separate groups and unite battlegroups with such a blocking maneuvre. Never liked to get none worth from flat-out move.
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PostSubject: Re: Surrounding a LandRaider   Surrounding a LandRaider I_icon_minitimeSun Jan 29 2012, 05:45

One good method for surrounding a raider that you want to kill but not destroy is to immobilize it, then hit it with a squad of wyches with Haywire grenades. The glances start piling up fast and it is unlikely to explode the Land Raider, which is going to hurt you pretty bad. Use transports to block off access from the surrounding doors and maybe even the rear to prevent as many enemy models as possible from getting out via Emergency Disembarkation. If you simply must assault the Raider before it's immobilized, make sure that any weapons which can easily kill your Wyches are knocked out first.
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