New 6th Allies Matrix for Dark Eldar

Well don't get me wrong, I think it's better for the game if you can't do that.

Just saw a nice excuse to leave my Regal Blue closed for awhile.

I based my assumption on the chart over at Warseer by the way:

Ben_S wrote:

I would hope that, regardless of what the rulebook says, allies are in practice the kind of thing that one only uses with opponent's permission (like special characters used to be, back in the day).

As someone with reasonable amounts of 'nids, CSM, orks, etc but who has rarely managed to complete a decent sized army, I like the fact that I'll be able to throw together what I have and make a legal army of sorts out of it. There are plenty of cases of unusual alliances in the fluff.

Amen! I also hope that it will be a 'in friendlies only' or 'for campaigns / narratives' rather than the default.

You can do ANYTHING you want if you both agree to it in friendly games.

Like all that stuff with terrain.... I was already making gastanks out of tin cans back in the 3rd with a buddy of mine. And we agreed they could be shot at, had AV14 and if you penetrated it, it would go kaboom in a 2D6 inch radius.

So yeah... A lot of stuff in 6th is to get our imagination going I guess + make it legal in the tournament scene so they will immerse themselves more in the totality of the hobby.

I am thinking about including a Bloodthirster... he's a flying monstrous creature, can fly up 24" and can deep strike. I think it will be the solution to our lack of assault (thanks to power weapon nerf).

Well according to the chart you can forge an unholy alliance. Just keep 'm away 6" from your DE units and you'll be fine.

and hope your opponent doesn't get the psychic power that let's him shift your troops around, you wouldn't want a bloodthirster charging your own guys or vice versa!

I keep my DE very far away, shooting to cover it. The only downside i see is he can't score nor contest.

The_Burning_Eye wrote:

and hope your opponent doesn't get the psychic power that let's him shift your troops around, you wouldn't want a bloodthirster charging your own guys or vice versa!

Bloodthirster 2+ save against psychic power, you know?

^ but the rest of your army doesn't, and with our movement, you'd have to keep everything very far away!

I suppose the Chaos Legions codex will be the same as the C:CSM?

All the marine chapters got their own alliance chart, too bad each chaos legion doesn't get one too.

good point, after all a khorne beserker army is going to work very differently to night lords or thousand sons for example. would make more sense to do that though, can't see DE allying with Emperor's children, it might be rather fatal, whereas Night Lords would seem to be very fluffy.

Nomic wrote:

Going by the ally matrix posted on BoLS a while ago, Eldar would be trusted allies and the rest an unholy alliance. So I'm quessing there would be some negative effects for taking GKs as allies (or you could only get the minium 1 HQ and 1 troops, or something).

Some of the allies do make sense. Eldar obviously, but also CSM (according to Black Crusade the Dark Eldar deal with Chaos forces pretty often, sometimes raiding them but sometimes trading weapons and services for slaves), Orks (aside from manipulating some Orks to assiting them, you could have freebooter mercenaries hired by the Dark Eldar), Tau (representing the "cultural exchange" story in the codex, and also if the rumours about the next Tau codex end up ebign true, Kroot mercenaries. I love Kroot mercenaries!) and suprisingly GK (they're quite pragmatic, willing to fight with anybody that fights against Chaos). Others, less so. Particularly Black Templars and SoB (both being extremely xenophobic even by Imperial standards, I have a hard time seeing them ally with any alien). To be honest, the worst combination isn't with our allies, but with CSM/Necrons, who can now ally with eachother (whatever happened to Necrons being essentially the anti-Chaos?).

Or blood axes, they're mercenary orks too, the original merc orks.

might actually convert some of my old orks into blood ace mercenaries, maybe get some kroot to convert too, DE aren't against hiring mercenaries, just look at thye Sslyth