1500pt Wych Cult for a few friendly games

Hi!

I'm having a few friendly non-competitve games this week and since I haven't been playing a lot of 40k since 6th edition I thought it would be usefull to post my list and hopefully get some comments:)


Dark Eldar

HQ - 90
Succubus (90)
agoniser; haywire grenades.

Troops - 838
9 Wyches (228)
Hekatrix (Agoniser; Phantasm grenade launcher); Raider (Dark Lance; Night shields); Hydra Gauntlets; Haywire Grenades.

10 Wyches (240)
Hekatrix (Agoniser; Phantasm grenade launcher); Raider (Dark Lance; Night shields); Hydra Gauntlets; Haywire Grenades.

5 Wyches (185)
Hekatrix (Agoniser; Phantasm grenade launcher); Venom (Splinter cannon; Night Shields); Hydra Gauntlets; Haywire Grenades.

5 Wyches (185)
Hekatrix (Agoniser; Phantasm grenade launcher); Venom (Splinter cannon; Night Shields); Hydra Gauntlets; Haywire Grenades.

Fast Attack - 224
6 Reavers (144)
Heat lance.

5 Hellions (80)

Heavy Support - 345
Ravager (115)
Night shields.

Ravager (115)
Night shields.

Ravager (115)
Night shields.

A regular wych cult as you can see although I'm doubting about the hellions...
Should I ditch them and take a few more reavers?
Should I replace one of the ravagers with a razorwing?

Comments are very welcome!


Grts
Nico

you got plenty of AT with 12 Lance and all that HWG, but have you got enough AI with just 2 venoms are the 2 larger units of wyches enough, maybe go all dissie on 1 ravager(super AI and could be used against low av) or go with removal of a ravager and the hellions and put in a voidraven with a couple of shatterfield.

i would go with the flyer but i think the dissie ravager would be huge fun too

Personally I would lose the Hydra Gauntlets and Agonisers from both Venom squads and give the Hekatrix in each either a Venom Blade or Power Lance. Then I would lose the Hellions for 3 Reavers with a Heat Lance and if you want a flyer I would say get a Razorwing with Flickerfield (and Splinter Cannon if you have at least 1 Hekatrix with Venom Blade) but keep the Dark Lances and stock missles on.

Maybe lose the Phantasm Grenade Launchers? They alreayd have plasma grenades, so you'd only gain defensive ones. Might be able to afford more toys!

Defensive Grenades providing all the Wyches with some Protection against Overwatch I would say 10 points well spend, especially for the Hydra Gauntlets/Hekatrix/Succubus.

I am going to sound a bit stupid here. What do defensive grenades do vs overwatch?

Defensive Grenades provide Stealth to the unit vs shooting within 8". So you'll get a 6+ cover save if out in the open, or +1 to your cover if charging through cover. I'm honestly not a big fan of them on wyches (though some are) but... *shrug*

Ah ok. Thanks for your help!

Thanks for the comments!
I'm having my first game with this (modified) list this afternoon, I'll post here how it went!

Grts
Nico

Edit: Hi all!

I've played the original list (unedited) today and it was a disaster! (both the list and the dice rolls)
Note that my component's list was somewhat out of the ordinair since he was fielding eldar corsairs (imperial armour stuff)

We rolled for mission & deployment and ended up playing the relic with vanguard strike deployement.
I rolled +1 S on the combat drugs & extra victory points on the warlord traits.

I deployed my units as much behind cover as possible, I started out lucky with a 6 on the roll off and decided to go first.

In the first turn I managed to zoom in on my enemy, get near the objective but I only got 2 glancing hits and no assaults.
My opponent did better, he destroyed 1 raider, killing 6 wyches in the blast, and killed a hellion.

Turn 2 saw some more action as I shot 1 of his corsair venoms to oblivion, killing 2 mounted troops
Furthermore my wyches destroyed 1 of his tanks (don't know what those eldar things are called) and glanced 2 more things
My opponent, however, managed to enter all of his reserves, kill my 2nd raider and 3 wyches who were in them, all of the hellions, 1 venom, 4 wyches in assault, all but 2 wyches who were carrying the relic and 2 dark lances.Furthermore he gaveme another 2 glances...

Turn 3 saw even more disaster for me!
My reavers scored their first hit but no wound were dealt, the wyches failed their assault, the ones already assaulting made an enemy run but got gunned down by some vehicle in my opponents turn, all my ravagers got destroyed, my 2nd venomsquad glanced a tank but both the venom and the squad were destroyed afterwards, the reavers were wiped out and the 2 remaining relicbearers got surrounded by 2 eldar squads...

Next game will be a 1000pt game but then I'll have the time to rewrite the list with the suggestions you guys gave me!

Grts
Nico

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