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PostSubject: 2k tournament list - 250 pts left over - 3 fast attack slots open - suggestions?!   2k tournament list - 250 pts left over - 3 fast attack slots open - suggestions?! I_icon_minitimeThu Feb 07 2013, 07:06

I've been running a venom spam list at 1750 pts with A LOT of success. The upcoming tournament is 2k, so I need to bump my list up 250pts. Where should I invest this 250 pts?!

I haven't used beastpacks. I'm really intrigued by them paired with Baron Sathonyx. What composition would you suggest? What tactics do you use with them,etc? Any advice on beastpacks would be great!

I've used reaver jetbikes. While they're amazing, I just can't ever seem to get any use out of their heat lances and with all the venom spam I think I've got anti infantry covered. However,people literally waste an entire turn shooting at them because I just zoomed up 48 inches into my opponent's face and they panic.

I'm just not sold on scourges. They seem way overpriced and too flimsy for infantry.

Hellions I'd consider but meh still more flimsy infantry. I just don't think they have the scary factor that reaver jetbikes or an enormous beast pack has.

I realize I lack anti air. With the speed Dark Eldar, have I'm usually able to avoid most flyers until they hover. At which point they usually kill one unit and are blasted (literally) out of the sky on the following turn.

With my 1750 lists I run Lady Malys or Duke Sliscus as my warlord. I find they tend to do nothing but sit in a venom the entire game or give up a slay the warlord. I REALLY like what Sathonyx does for the beastpack and his +1 to roll

Here's the list:

Baron Sathonyx

4 Trueborn w/4 Blasters in Venom w/splinter cannon
4 Trueborn w/4 Blasters in Venom w/splinter cannon
4 Trueborn w/4 Blasters in Venom w/splinter cannon

5 Warriors w/1 Blaster in Venom w/splinter cannon
5 Warriors w/1 Blaster in Venom w/splinter cannon
5 Warriors w/1 Blaster in Venom w/splinter cannon
5 Warriors w/1 Blaster in Venom w/splinter cannon
5 Warriors w/1 Blaster in Venom w/splinter cannon
5 Warriors w/1 Blaster in Venom w/splinter cannon

5 Beastmasters
5 Khymera
5 Khymera
5 Khymera
2 Razorwing Flocks
2 Razorwing Flocks

Ravager
Ravager
Ravager
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PostSubject: Re: 2k tournament list - 250 pts left over - 3 fast attack slots open - suggestions?!   2k tournament list - 250 pts left over - 3 fast attack slots open - suggestions?! I_icon_minitimeFri Feb 08 2013, 06:16

So no one uses fast attack. Got it Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: 2k tournament list - 250 pts left over - 3 fast attack slots open - suggestions?!   2k tournament list - 250 pts left over - 3 fast attack slots open - suggestions?! I_icon_minitimeFri Feb 08 2013, 06:52

Well I would say that's too many khymeras but thats just me. There is a post for fast attack analysis under the tactics section too you should check it out. Very useful.


Also, ive never used such a big squad of beasts before, but that should definitely scare people. I think it fits as a large threat to balance out your ravagers getting a lot of heat.

http://www.thedarkcity.net/t5206-plastikente-s-dark-eldar-unit-guide-part-4-fast-attack

Theres the fast attack guide!
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PostSubject: Re: 2k tournament list - 250 pts left over - 3 fast attack slots open - suggestions?!   2k tournament list - 250 pts left over - 3 fast attack slots open - suggestions?! I_icon_minitimeFri Feb 08 2013, 14:55

it depends on what you want out of that slot. Both reavers, beasts, and scourges off their own bonuses. Reavers are good for contesting late game, and rushing them up will draw alot of fire and kill them off quickly. I would suggest giving them blasters, and basically using them to jump out, shoot something, and jump back behind cover. You will find they survive alot longer with that in mind.

Beasts are decent, but wound allocation really hurt them imho. Other than that, they are a good counterattack force I would drop those extra kymera for more razorwings though

Scourges are good with haywire or sucicide heat lances, thats about it. Haywires are still an amazing ability though as its basically "oh did I only take 1 hull point from that tank??? yah... its dead now"

You could also use those points to ally in a jetseer w/ divination and 3 GJB. That gives you re-rolls to hit with your venoms/ravagers, and gives you a decent scoring unit to boot... is up to you really.
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PostSubject: Re: 2k tournament list - 250 pts left over - 3 fast attack slots open - suggestions?!   2k tournament list - 250 pts left over - 3 fast attack slots open - suggestions?! I_icon_minitimeFri Feb 08 2013, 15:44

I love the beast pack and have had great success with it.
I think you have too many hounds. I'd day 6 flocks and 8-10 hounds would be much better.
That'll give you more points to spend. Maybe a void bomber with ff for anti air. There will be a lot of flyers at 2k
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PostSubject: Re: 2k tournament list - 250 pts left over - 3 fast attack slots open - suggestions?!   2k tournament list - 250 pts left over - 3 fast attack slots open - suggestions?! I_icon_minitimeWed Feb 13 2013, 05:44

I would suggest taking Reavers, not only can they contest late as Shadow said, but they also can deal a lot of damage. If you use them with blasters you can do alot, but late in the game when your enemy has moved them up, you can use their Bladevanes, and being able to turboboost 36", you can probably overshoot your enemy's squad you flew over far enough that you can hide behind cover, then fly back over next turn right into the cover you had them in before, plus they will get a 3+ Jink thanks to Skilled Riders. I'd suggest taking 6 Reavers with 2 Blasters, that's 162 points, then you have a few points extra to spen on something like maybe 3 more plain reavers that you can let sit in reserves until they come out to contest late in the game.
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