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PostSubject: 1500 New to DE, please help!   1500 New to DE, please help! I_icon_minitimeSun Mar 24 2013, 07:30

Archon, Venom Blade, Agonizer, PGL, Combat Drugs, Shadow Field, Ghostplate armor. 160
Incubi x4 Klaivex w/ Demiklaives, in Venom with the Archon, 178

Kabalite Trueborn x10, Dracon, Haywire grenades, 1 D Lance, 2 Blasters, in Raider w/ grisly trophies and flickerfield. 275

Kabalite Warriors x10 in Raider, Grisly trophies, splinter racks, Flickerfield, 175

Wyches x10, Haywire grenades in Raider w/ Grisly Trophies, Flickerfield, 195

Hellions x10, Helliarch w/VB, 170

Reavers x3, Heat lance, Arena Champion w/Venom Blade

Reavers x3, Heat lance, Arena Champion w/Venom Blade 93

Ravager, Flickerfield 115

Ravager, Flickerfield 115

List total: 1509

Please list any comments! I'm going to be facing IG, mechanized and not, and tyranids. Also Grey knights. New to the game, but I've been reading a lot about DE and watching a lot of battle reports. Thinking of maybe going with a Voidraven instead of the last ravager, not sure. Thanks!
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PostSubject: Re: 1500 New to DE, please help!   1500 New to DE, please help! I_icon_minitimeSun Mar 24 2013, 14:33

As suggestions, drop the ghostplate, and either venomblade or agoniser from the archon. (Dont know can you even have both?)
Trueborns shouldnt have both DL and blasters, and they dont really need to be very large squads either.
Reavers should be in squads of 6 to be efficient, I hear.
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PostSubject: Re: 1500 New to DE, please help!   1500 New to DE, please help! I_icon_minitimeSun Mar 24 2013, 18:31

Mngwa wrote:
As suggestions, drop the ghostplate, and either venomblade or agoniser from the archon. (Dont know can you even have both?)
Trueborns shouldnt have both DL and blasters, and they dont really need to be very large squads either.
Reavers should be in squads of 6 to be efficient, I hear.

Derp, you're right about the VB and agoniser. Woops! Thanks for the tips.
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PostSubject: Re: 1500 New to DE, please help!   1500 New to DE, please help! I_icon_minitimeSun Mar 24 2013, 18:42

You can have both a venomblade and an agoniser, though I find that the venom blade is better paired with either a huskblade (for versatility) or a splinter pistol (for cheapness.)
I'd drop the Klaivex's demiklaives, the venom blades on the Arena Champions (with squads of three Reavers, I'd drop the Champion, too,) and the Grisly Trophies (they aren't bad as a points filler, but leave them off until there aren't any other decent options.)
Flickerfields usually aren't necessary, thanks to Jink, but Night Shields can be pretty handy.
Big trueborn squads are inefficient, and the Dracon is a waste of points (pity they aren't an HQ.) Small squads, such as four with blasters or three with two splinter cannons riding around in a Venom are pretty useful, though.
I'm not much of a fan of Hellions without the Baron, but a big unit like that could work. I'd still rather spend those points on something else, though.
I think this should save you enough points to get at least one squad of Kabalites in a Venom, maybe up to three if the hellions are just dropped. You seem to have a deficit of scoring units, so it may even be a good idea.
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PostSubject: Re: 1500 New to DE, please help!   1500 New to DE, please help! I_icon_minitimeSun Mar 24 2013, 20:35

So would the Archon be better with Venom Blade, PGL, Drugs and shadow field? That brings him down to 130. And what do people think of the last ravager? Should I go with that, or substitute a razorwing?
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PostSubject: Re: 1500 New to DE, please help!   1500 New to DE, please help! I_icon_minitimeSun Mar 24 2013, 22:23

That's always a solid build. I tend to throw on a huskblade and a soul trap as well for my own entertainment, but they're hardly necessary. A venom blade is enough for most targets.

I tend to take Ravagers and Razorwings in a 2:1 ratio when I put both in a list. Ravagers have always done more for me than the Razorwing, but the plane is just so [REDACTED] cool that I don't like going up to 2000 or more without one.
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PostSubject: Re: 1500 New to DE, please help!   1500 New to DE, please help! I_icon_minitimeMon Mar 25 2013, 00:25

Revised list,

Archon with VB, PGL, Drugs, Shadow field, 130 with Incubi x4, Klaivex, 103 in Venom, total 288

Kabalite Trueborn x3 with 3 Blasters in Venom, total 136

Kabalite Warriors x10 in Raider with Splinter racks and night shields, total 170

Kabalite Warriors x10 in Raider with Splinter racks and night shields, total 170

Wyches x10 with Haywire grenades in Raider with N Shields, total 190

Hellions x10, Helliarch with VB, total 170

Reavers x6 with Heat Lance x2, total 156

Ravager with N Shields, 115

Ravager with N Shields, 115

Army total: 1510. Thoughts?
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