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Dogmar Sybarite
Posts : 397 Join date : 2011-11-22 Location : Germany
| Subject: Avatar base size Wed Jul 10 2013, 15:38 | |
| So, I recently got myself an old metal Avatar of Khaine. It came with a 40mm base which it barely fits onto. Since the Avatar ist a T6 W5 monstrous creature I thought its base would be more walker sized, say like the 60mm of a wraithlord.
I also think the FW avatar is on a bigger base. So my question is: which size is game legal? Before I invest time into building a scenic base for him that I'm not allowed to use that would be good to know, | |
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Count Adhemar Dark Lord of Granbretan
Posts : 7610 Join date : 2012-04-26 Location : London
| Subject: Re: Avatar base size Wed Jul 10 2013, 15:39 | |
| From GW website: - Quote :
- This pack contains The Avatar of Khaine - a finely detailed resin cast kit that comes in five components and is supplied with a 40mm round base.
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Dogmar Sybarite
Posts : 397 Join date : 2011-11-22 Location : Germany
| Subject: Re: Avatar base size Wed Jul 10 2013, 15:46 | |
| Wow, totally overlooked that... d'oh! Thank you Still, what if I had the FW avatar that comes on a 60mm base? Still legal? I know there is a rule that says any model is game legal on the base size it comes with, but then I'd have 2 rules-wise identical models on 2 different base sizes. | |
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Evil Space Elves Haemonculus Ancient
Posts : 3717 Join date : 2011-07-13 Location : Santa Cruz, ca
| Subject: Re: Avatar base size Wed Jul 10 2013, 15:56 | |
| BRB pg 3:"The rules in this book assume that models are mounted on bases that they are supplied with ....you should always feel free to mount the model of a base of appropriate size if you wish using models of a similar type as guidance.
You see many SM players mount their HQ's on 40mm without complaints. When that Avatar model was released it used a 40mm square fantasy base. The FW model does indeed use a 60mm, but is larger. The metal Avatar looks goofy on either the 40 or 60mm IMHO, but I would go with the 60mm. I know that Phil Kelly (I think it was him, if not it was another GW staffer) used a metal Avatar with a 60mm in several battle reports. | |
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Dogmar Sybarite
Posts : 397 Join date : 2011-11-22 Location : Germany
| Subject: Re: Avatar base size Wed Jul 10 2013, 16:40 | |
| What about something in between then? 50mm? I personally find the sculpt quite cool. By no means even near as good as the FW one, but to be fair, mine only cost me 10$ instead of 90$, so I guess it's something | |
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Thor665 Archon
Posts : 5546 Join date : 2011-06-10 Location : Venice, FL
| Subject: Re: Avatar base size Wed Jul 10 2013, 17:02 | |
| I'd pass on both of the above models and field the original avatar on the 25mm base, personally I personally don't think you'll run into troubles running your Avatar on anything between 40-60mm. | |
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Evil Space Elves Haemonculus Ancient
Posts : 3717 Join date : 2011-07-13 Location : Santa Cruz, ca
| Subject: Re: Avatar base size Wed Jul 10 2013, 18:08 | |
| - Thor665 wrote:
- I'd pass on both of the above models and field the original avatar on the 25mm base, personally
For any of you that "missed" the original: And yes, that is a 25mm base. I'm a nostalgic old-timer...but this is going too far | |
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Thor665 Archon
Posts : 5546 Join date : 2011-06-10 Location : Venice, FL
| Subject: Re: Avatar base size Wed Jul 10 2013, 18:49 | |
| Now you sound like those players who grump about me fielding my Ghaz on 25mm base - it's what he came with darn your eyes! And it's officially Ghaz | |
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Ben_S Sybarite
Posts : 376 Join date : 2012-05-20 Location : Stirling, Scotland
| Subject: Re: Avatar base size Wed Jul 10 2013, 22:32 | |
| In my experience, people generally don't mind you going for a larger base, but do object to a smaller one. With that in mind, it's worth pointing out that going from 40mm square to 40mm round would be moving to a base smaller in area, so people may well object to that. I can't be bothered to work out whether a 50mm round is larger or smaller than a 40mm square, but it may be worth checking.
Personally, I'd have no objection to facing it on a 40mm square base. (Though I wouldn't object to just about any other base either, including 40mm round - 25mm may be going too far.) | |
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Vasara Incognito assault marine
Posts : 1160 Join date : 2012-08-22 Location : Vantaa
| Subject: Re: Avatar base size Thu Jul 11 2013, 06:40 | |
| Avatar apears to have many choises over the years. Mine was suplied with 40mm square base.
Good to know that it is supposed to be 40mm round cos I would have put it to 60mm round base I'd taken it to tournaments. | |
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Shadows Revenge Hierarch of Tactica
Posts : 2587 Join date : 2011-08-10 Location : Bmore
| Subject: Re: Avatar base size Thu Jul 11 2013, 14:59 | |
| I actually love the old Avatar Model. That cape is so badass | |
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Count Adhemar Dark Lord of Granbretan
Posts : 7610 Join date : 2012-04-26 Location : London
| Subject: Re: Avatar base size Thu Jul 11 2013, 15:09 | |
| - Shadows Revenge wrote:
- I actually love the old Avatar Model. That cape is so badass
I have it at home and it has been serving as a "Counts as" Fire Dragon Exarch for many years now. | |
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