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PostSubject: Is Vect's Dias of Destruction worthwhile the points   Is Vect's Dias of Destruction worthwhile the points I_icon_minitimeSat Jul 20 2013, 00:38

For 440 points to begin with we have a 13 13 13 Raider with 3 HP and since the FAQ states that he must have 9 strong with vect then its going to cost more than 500 points.  Ive seen Land Raiders Fall to Dark Lances and Lance weaponry alike. Not to mention Meltas laugh at 14 AV
Is it worth bringing a near to land raider tough raider at the cost of a chunk or in small games a huge chunk of your army for possibly a big target.
I used it once, it got blown up by a lascannon while providing i hid it numerous times behind cover, in it, and used it to my full advantge. I believe the dias is too expensive to make use of it effectively physically and cost effecient.


A land Raider, while it may be slow is much much survivable than the dias as its armor is higher and has one extra HP Not to mention less than half of the cost for vect's comapny and dias of destruction
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PostSubject: Re: Is Vect's Dias of Destruction worthwhile the points   Is Vect's Dias of Destruction worthwhile the points I_icon_minitimeSat Jul 20 2013, 03:48

mod edit- please use the edit function rather than posting multiple times in a row. Cheers, Massaen
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PostSubject: Re: Is Vect's Dias of Destruction worthwhile the points   Is Vect's Dias of Destruction worthwhile the points I_icon_minitimeSat Jul 20 2013, 08:45

Short answer is - no.

Long answer is - no, absolutely not worth points, definately.
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PostSubject: Re: Is Vect's Dias of Destruction worthwhile the points   Is Vect's Dias of Destruction worthwhile the points I_icon_minitimeSat Jul 20 2013, 14:06

No, it's not.

Even if it *did* have Aerial Assault in order to fire all three weapons, it wouldn't be (although at least I suppose you can fire both Dissies together, or the lance at a tank).

Even if it *could* buy the upgrades available to any basic Raider, but not to the leader of the Dark Eldar as we know them, it wouldn't be.

Does it even have an awesome BS? Can't even remember, it's been so long since I've even bothered to look at it. At least the old Dias could jump into combat, hilarious as that was...

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PostSubject: Re: Is Vect's Dias of Destruction worthwhile the points   Is Vect's Dias of Destruction worthwhile the points I_icon_minitimeSun Jul 21 2013, 09:43

maybe, and thats a big maybe, if your playing 3000+ pt games but apart from that NO NEVER EVER
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PostSubject: Re: Is Vect's Dias of Destruction worthwhile the points   Is Vect's Dias of Destruction worthwhile the points I_icon_minitimeTue Jul 23 2013, 03:51

I used the dais for a while when my local area was basically nothing but space wolf long fang missile spam. We're talking 7 out of 9 armies. AV13 is a nice armor setting to hit on any vehicle, as that's where str 7 starts to struggle and str 8 needs 6s to have a chance at blowing you up. Hot dice are hot dice, that's a risk you run with any vehicle, but especially considering some of the tau armies love of str 7 that av13 fire magnet can win you the game depending on the amount of shooting it takes up. Depending on what you load in it a canny opponent can just ignore it, so you have to take something pretty high threat. Usually just vect is enough, although wyches or even cheap harlequins do well. I will say 9 incubi is the realm of MADNESS in anything under 2250. I wouldn't grab a dais in under 1850 games though, either.

tl;dr the rest of your army loves not being shot at while the dais is being obnoxious, don't take against lascannons or better. You have the mobility to deal with melta, with the exception of the storm raven.
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PostSubject: Re: Is Vect's Dias of Destruction worthwhile the points   Is Vect's Dias of Destruction worthwhile the points I_icon_minitimeTue Jul 23 2013, 12:35

It's wayyyy too expensive, what really hurts isn't necessarily the 200 pt additional cost (thats ALMOST fair) but the fact that you must have 9 other passengers inside it along with Vect, so taking it simply to have an armor 13 ravager ends up costing big time. Save all those points and you could easily get 3 venoms full of warriors or 2-3 Ravagers, Vect and his ship are cool, but short of Apoc you have no real reason to use them.
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