Anyone else shuddering at the thought of a new book?

Count Adhemar wrote:

This ^^ pretty much sums up my feeling perfectly.

I think in new codex we will be pretty much the same. But maybe will get something that people will complain at a tornament (like Centurions or Helldrakes). Something realy overpowered.

Who knows? Will see...

Count Adhemar wrote:

This ^^ pretty much sums up my feeling perfectly.

Hear hear!

Also, something about wyches needing a boost!

Barking Agatha wrote:

Also, something about wyches needing a boost!

I think our combat in general needs looking at.

Wyches seem more like tarpits than actual CC units (which is really strange in a glass-cannon army), and I struggle to find a place for them in any of my armies.

Bloodbrides - an elite tarpit that can't score. Yay...?  

Succubus - "Where did my AP2 go?"

I might also ask why a Daemon Prince is faster than all our HQs, barring Lelith...   


Anyway, then you have our weapons:

Venom Blades - Good, basic weapon. No complaints, however, it always feels wrong when something like this is our go-to weapon - even for HQs - because our other weapons are so terrible and/or overpriced.

Power Weapons - I might consider a Power Axe on a Haemonculus (if I had spare points), or on one of our Sergeants, but that's about it.

Huskblade - Seems far too expensive for S3 models. Still, it's currently our only AP2 weapon that strikes at initiative and at least has a solid effect. Also, why does a Haemonculus pay as much for this as an Archon? Yeah, fear those WS4 I4 attacks.   

Agoniser - Not a poison weapon, and now only AP3. Sigh. Our glass-cannon seems to be lacking ammunition.

Electrocorrosive Whip - Does anyone ever use this? I feel you could knock off 75% of its price and it would still never see play.

Flesh Gauntlet - Is there some sort of design code whereby crap weapons have to cost 20pts? I can't think of many situations where this would be better than Venom Blades (and it costs 4 times as much), and even fewer where poison-shooting wouldn't work even better. Still, at least it's available on the combat beast that is the Haemonculus...

Mindphase Gauntlet - An initiative-based weapon that's exclusive to I4 models (And the Haem. Ancient). Also very specific in its targets, and doesn't actually improve your combat abilities one iota. At least it's cheap, I guess.

Djin Blade (feel free to add 'Noble' or 'Resplendent') - Combine with soul-trap and you can create possibly the only HQ in the game capable of instant-deathing himself. I'm not sure what particular issue that ability solves, but it's bound to solve something. (Also, a cookie for anyone who gets the reference at the beginning.   )

Animus Vitae - Did this really need to be a special weapon, rather than just working with whatever weapon the model happens to be wielding? In my mind this weapon is 'special' in the same way that the kid eating paste is 'special'.

Personally, I'd like to see more 'solid' weapons (like the agonizer pre-6th) - rather than ones that might do something useful if it's exactly 6pm, on a Tuesday and your opponent is feeling generous.

Indeed! Our special weapons...

I remember when I first started DE about a year ago, I was just in love with every piece of wargear we had. Every single item sounded cool. And for 6 months I kept trying to fit the wargear on models, but at some point I had to face it that all our special weapons (CCW at least) are overpriced garbage with the exception of the Venom Blade and now I just slap that on everything. I know a lot of people feel differently, but I still think the huskblade is overpriced, and garbage. The only other weapon I use is hydra gauntlets and they're not that good, I just use them to compensate for dead wyches.

ive said it before and ill say it again, our vehicles can  move 12" and shoot all weapons,, why can't the models hanging of the side do it,   splinter wracks would be much more viable.

I haven't heard anything about open topped vehicles and passenger's shooting,  has anyone else heard rumours??????


AND A MODEL FOR VECT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

darthken239 wrote:

ive said it before and ill say it again, our vehicles can  move 12" and shoot all weapons,, why can't the models hanging of the side do it,   splinter wracks would be much more viable.

That would be nice.

At the very least, it feels like we need something to represent our extra mobility (similar to how Eldar can fleet and shoot in the same turn).

What with fliers (and especially flier transports), all vehicles gaining Flat Out, vehicles snap-shotting weapons instead of not being able to shoot etc., I've often found myself feeling that we've lost a lot of our speed/manoeuvrability advantage.

Seeing how D-weapons have now been implemented into regular games, I really hope for an upgrade of the Voidraven Bomber's stats to accompany the much needed release of a new kit: S10 AP2 lances and a S:D AP1 bomb. It is the most powerful device the Dark Eldar could come up with - and they can come up with pretty powerful stuff! - so it better be more than its current (laughable) incarnation.

our books pretty awful, so no I'm not shuddering at the thought of a new book.

Unfortunately, the new one can be worse than our current book.