Beastpacks vs Tau

I'm trying to figure out what beastpack setup I want to run to bubblewrap the Dias of Destruction in a game vs Tau I'll be playing in a week or so. Would the Khymerae or Clawed Fiends be better to soak up wounds? Should I include any Razorwing Flocks? I was planning on running the Baron with them as well.

If the entire thing is a stupid idea, please let me know.

No idea is ever stupid. There's only stupid people and stupid answers. I'll go ahead and have the boys over in the math hammer department crunch some numbers to shed some light on this.

Why are you bubble wrapping a vehicle? Tau won't be assaulting you, I don't think flamers are a thing for them? Sorry if I sound jerky but I'm honestly confused, how will any beasts soak wounds? They'll just target the vehicle.

The only thing i can think of is deep striking Farsight with melta squad. And then Khymerae is your best choice. Cheep and 4++ saves.

But those guys are arriwing T2+ so that tactic is a bit invalid as you need to keep those dogs around Dias for the whole game.

Not sure of the effectiveness of beasts vs Tau (though I love to use beasts vs almost all armies).

Tau players in my country usually deploy their army in the rear of the table (also usually with ADL). Although I haven't played with them yet, I've seen many times that nids and orks couldn't even reach them but just evaporate.

It'd be very appreciated if anyone share his/her tactics vs Tau with beastpack.

lelith wrote:

Not sure of the effectiveness of beasts vs Tau (though I love to use beasts vs almost all armies).

Tau players in my country usually deploy their army in the rear of the table (also usually with ADL). Although I haven't played with them yet, I've seen many times that nids and orks couldn't even reach them but just evaporate.

It'd be very appreciated if anyone share his/her tactics vs Tau with beastpack.

Not possible anymore. Maelstrom made sure of that. Beast shine in maelstrom.

Vasara wrote:

lelith wrote:

Not sure of the effectiveness of beasts vs Tau (though I love to use beasts vs almost all armies).

Tau players in my country usually deploy their army in the rear of the table (also usually with ADL). Although I haven't played with them yet, I've seen many times that nids and orks couldn't even reach them but just evaporate.

It'd be very appreciated if anyone share his/her tactics vs Tau with beastpack.

Not possible anymore. Maelstrom made sure of that. Beast shine in maelstrom.

Wow, it makes sense! Thanks for the idea, Vasara!

Martinman wrote:

I'm trying to figure out what beastpack setup I want to run to bubblewrap the Dias of Destruction in a game vs Tau I'll be playing in a week or so.  Would the Khymerae or Clawed Fiends be better to soak up wounds?  Should I include any Razorwing Flocks?  I was planning on running the Baron with them as well.

If the entire thing is a stupid idea, please let me know.

Ya bubble wrapping with beasts isnt really worthwhile against tau as vasara stated since you waste time being defensive waiting for reserves to arrive.
Depending on the pack size (anything not expendable range) you will want fearless, either from vect or else an eldar HQ like a phoenix lord/shardseer. Its more important than hit and run by far. I tried it without fearless for a short time until I lost my pack with rerollable Ld 10 (trophies) and had them run off the board turn 1. Lesson learned the hard way..

Anyway ya all khymera is best, add 2 RWFs if you like or arent including something killy like vect. Beware assaulting things like fully tooled broadsides though, even a fully matured pack will evaporate to their overwatch at times. Send a throwaway unit in first to absorb it.

Vasara wrote:

The only thing i can think of is deep striking Farsight with melta squad. And then Khymerae is your best choice. Cheep and 4++ saves.

But those guys are arriwing T2+ so that tactic is a bit invalid as you need to keep those dogs around Dias for the whole game.

The guy I'm playing against is running Farsight Enclaves, so Deepstriking Melta Suits is my main worry for this game, aside from the fact that he also owns 3 Riptides.

Depending on deployment, it could take multiple turns for everything to get there. The army consists of the Dias, Baron, Trueborn with Blasters/Venom, Splinter Cannons/Raider, Dark Lances/Venom, 5 Wyches w/Haywire in a Venom, 9 Wyches in the Dias, A Jetfighter, A Chronos, and a Talos. I figured the Dias, Beasts/Baron, Chronos and Talos would march up the table, and then start wrecking stuff as soon as they can, while the rest of the stuff hangs back and shoots stuff.

Well in my experience with Tau, it works well to throw everything into melee with them. Even kabalites. You need to pick targets ofc and think, but what is in melee, cannot be shot at. Deploy as aggressively as possible and combine your assaults. Send the expendables in first (pun intended) and follow up with the killy stuff. Try not to kill them in one round or you will be shot. Charging two units with one of yours works well if you manage to wipe one. Work with pain tokens and utiliize them. Drugs too. And I personally would give Vect and Dais a kick and take moar bodiez. Charge in Talos with an overwatch soaking 5 warriors and leave him there to block any blob with S3 in melee incapable of harming him. Etc...