1850 Formation/Grot bomb.

Assuming that you can in fact take 5 Talos engines as a formation in the new Coven Supplement. Then the 5 get Scout and an extra victory point for everything it kills in CC.


Main Detachment Dark Eldar:
Working with a partially finished Battlescribe so calculations may be off. I don't think so.

HQ
Archon:
-Huskblade
-Shadowfield
-Soultrap
-The Animus Vitae
-Webway

paired with

Elite
Grotesque X4:
-liquifier gun X4

DT
Raider
-Dark Lance
-Aethersails
-Nightshield

Troops

Sybarite
-Splinter rifle
Kabalite Warriors X8
-Splinter Rifles
Kabalite Warrior with a heavy weapon
-Splinter Cannon

Total: 3

DT
Raider
-Dark Lance
-Splinter Racks
-Nightshield

Total: 3

Fast Attack
Razorwing Fighter
-Nightshield
-2 Dark Lances
-Necrotoxin missiles ( i havent decided I'm trying to think of a hole in my poison shooting where getting fleshbane is superior, High T groups then?)

Formation Coven:

Talos Pain Engine X5
-Twin Linked Haywire Blasters X5

Formation Special Rules:
-The talos get Scout
-Anything they kill in close combat rewards an extra victory point


I am making this list and I will run it. Just need 2 more Talos Engines and I can see how crazy it really is.

Sorry forgot to include Raiders

Point of interest, I believe the Talos formation only gets extra VPs if they kill non-vehicle models in CC. But I'm not 100% sure one way or the other.

I like the list!
Taloi support the Grots, Kabbies shoot anything that moves.
Only thought is 6 DLs and 5 HWB are likely not enough AT @ 2000pts. I realize the Talos will wreck anything they touch but from a shooting point of view I'd consider keeping the Monoscythe missiles on the Razorwing. They're S6 and can account for Infantry AND light vehicles, and S6 is enough that most infantry targets you should be wanting to spam missiles at are wounded on 2+ anyway.
Fleshbane is useful for models T5-6 and higher, which are usually not as plentiful as squishy infantry and therefore often not worth a large blast. That way in case you need to multitask you have the option of missiles at vehicles instead of EXCLUSIVELY at infantry.

can you bring 4 talos and a chronos? the 3+ 4+ would be insane.

Naw, the formation is five talos. Still with 15 T7 wounds with FNP, scouting talos are going to be a bear to deal with.

I think that this list exemplifies one of the better ways to play DE with the new dex. You have one or two monstrously nasty units in your face that must be dealt with, drawing attention away from our paper boats and planes.

That being said a few changes I would make, drop the raider from the grots and pick up another two or three grots. Four liquifiers is plenty.

I might also skinny up on the kabalites and get one or two units of scourges with eith heat lances or HWB. The first time you face thriple Knights you will be glad. In all reality, kabalites are really just there to score stuff, you just want them to be able to burn someone elses min unit. I do like keeping one in the raider with racks to be more aggressive with though.

Ever consider picking up a Tauntalus? Transport capacity 16 is pretty sick, plus the added bonus of being able to can-open people as you flat out over them is nice. This would let you run 7 Grots + 1-2 IC. I'm excited to try mine out.

Yes the Talos can only get those points in CC with non vehicles.


I was contemplating running 4 venoms with 5 warriors in each an a blaster. This leaves me about 100 points left over. I could rework some things and then include either a ravager or scourges.

The Idea about dropping the raider is a good one, unfortunately I only have 4 grots in making right now. Depending on how they preform in and out of raiders is what is going to make me decide on what to get. This is a tournament ready list and I am very curious to see how it does. I can shave some points by using just a buff Haemon which is a good idea then I can upgrade to an aberration so that he doesn't get picked off in a Challenge. But The archon will more than likely stale mate a challenge while the grots work.

Yes my LGS does Forge world orders quarterly so we do group orders together. I don't think I will be making it this time but Around Jan is when I will for sure pick one up. Its more of a flair peace, I don't exactly need it but I want it bad.

I am a bit hesitant about dropping the grots into the ground without a raider being as that they can jink in a raider for a whole enemy turn and stay alive. Split fire to the group, if it does blow up then the s4 explode really wont do anything. However If i drop them bare bones T5 is way easier to gun down with massed Troop fire.

Mr. Carp I really like your justification about the missiles and will be running the Monos like you stated.

By dropping that Soul trap, Aether sales on the Grot venom, and by bringing 4 venoms with 4 warriors and 1 blaster then I can fit in either a ravager or a squad of scourges. I would probably do the scourges, I like them a lot.

Oh this is also an 1850 list Carp.