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CptMetal Dracon
Posts : 3069 Join date : 2015-03-03 Location : Ruhr Metropolian Area
| Subject: Wraith Knight ally Mon May 18 2015, 07:28 | |
| We are having a small campaign with friends and we are discussing the usage of Lord of War units. The chaos player on our side and the enemy Eldar player are against banning of Lord of War and against mentioning it earlier. Now I would like to teach them a lesson:
What is the easiest way to use a wraith as an ally? Without unbound of course. I want to stay as much dark Eldar as possible. And it would make a great conversion... | |
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Vasara Incognito assault marine
Posts : 1160 Join date : 2012-08-22 Location : Vantaa
| Subject: Re: Wraith Knight ally Mon May 18 2015, 09:16 | |
| take a Revenant.
Or Autarch, 3 bikes and WK. Skyrunner seer, 3 scatterbikes and a WK would be better though. _________________ New Dark Eldar in Tournaments: Wins: 17 Draws: 2 Losses: 8 ETC 2013 DE/Eldar player (4th) ETC 2014 Coach (16th) ETC 2015 Captain, Eldar/DE (10th) Painting blog
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CptMetal Dracon
Posts : 3069 Join date : 2015-03-03 Location : Ruhr Metropolian Area
| Subject: Re: Wraith Knight ally Mon May 18 2015, 09:53 | |
| Hm... There is a Detachment that uses only one knight (in addition to the Guardian core Detachment)? _________________ http://www.thedarkcity.net/t12720-tainted-reborn
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Vasara Incognito assault marine
Posts : 1160 Join date : 2012-08-22 Location : Vantaa
| Subject: Re: Wraith Knight ally Mon May 18 2015, 10:16 | |
| Sorry, was thinking the old HS WK.
Douple CAD? Farseer skyrunner, 2 bikes and a WK _________________ New Dark Eldar in Tournaments: Wins: 17 Draws: 2 Losses: 8 ETC 2013 DE/Eldar player (4th) ETC 2014 Coach (16th) ETC 2015 Captain, Eldar/DE (10th) Painting blog
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CptMetal Dracon
Posts : 3069 Join date : 2015-03-03 Location : Ruhr Metropolian Area
| Subject: Re: Wraith Knight ally Mon May 18 2015, 10:51 | |
| Can I actually use two CAD? One for the dark Eldar, one for the Eldar (or the wraith knight to be precise). _________________ http://www.thedarkcity.net/t12720-tainted-reborn
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The_Burning_Eye Trueborn
Posts : 2501 Join date : 2012-01-16 Location : Rutland - UK
| Subject: Re: Wraith Knight ally Mon May 18 2015, 11:34 | |
| - CptMetal wrote:
- Can I actually use two CAD? One for the dark Eldar, one for the Eldar (or the wraith knight to be precise).
Yes, you don't have to use the allied detachment for allies, it just lets you take a limited number of units for a lesser 'tax' than the CAD (only 1 troops required). You can still take a CAD for allies, you just have to have that second troops unit, but with Windrider jetbikes it hardly qualifies as a 'tax'. _________________ Tan? You're joking, I'm a gamer, you're lucky I'm wearing deodorant!
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CptMetal Dracon
Posts : 3069 Join date : 2015-03-03 Location : Ruhr Metropolian Area
| Subject: Re: Wraith Knight ally Mon May 18 2015, 11:45 | |
| But may I use the special Eldar detachments, so I can use the wraith knight with only three bikes and one HQ as a tax? _________________ http://www.thedarkcity.net/t12720-tainted-reborn
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CptMetal Dracon
Posts : 3069 Join date : 2015-03-03 Location : Ruhr Metropolian Area
| Subject: Re: Wraith Knight ally Mon May 18 2015, 12:03 | |
| The only way except the CAD I find is the wraith formation. But that way I have to buy a wraith lord and guards too. Do I have to use the core guardian formation too? (sorry for double post. I'm on my phone) _________________ http://www.thedarkcity.net/t12720-tainted-reborn
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The_Burning_Eye Trueborn
Posts : 2501 Join date : 2012-01-16 Location : Rutland - UK
| Subject: Re: Wraith Knight ally Mon May 18 2015, 13:57 | |
| Whatever formation/detachment you use, you must fulfill the basic requirements - I'm not familiar with the new Eldar formations but I understand there's one that details wraithlords and wraithguard in addition to a wraithknight. Equally as a Lord of War (I think?) the Wraithknight can't be taken as part of an allied detachment (there isn't a lord of war slot in the detachment).
If there are formations that include the wraithknight then they can be included in your army - formations specify all the units you must take.
If there is a detachment in the Eldar codex with a Lord of War slot then you can use that, but you must fulfill the minimum requirements in terms of units taken.
There is no way, to my knowledge, that you can take a Wraithknight on its own (ie without taking other Eldar units to fill out a detachment) as an ally without going unbound (but you'd need to check the Eldar codex to make sure) _________________ Tan? You're joking, I'm a gamer, you're lucky I'm wearing deodorant!
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My Project Log - Visions of the Burning Eye
My Gaming Log - Chronicles of the Burning Eye
My Club - MAD Wargaming
My Fluff - Kabal of the Burning Eye, Cult of the Shadowed Blade and Coven of Distorted Perfection
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Dirtydeeds Hellion
Posts : 70 Join date : 2013-12-10
| Subject: Re: Wraith Knight ally Mon May 18 2015, 14:56 | |
| The cheapest way to fit a Wraithknight in your Dark Eldar list is to take a double CAD like mentioned before. It'll cost a measly 202 points for 2 squads of three bikes and a Farseer without upgrades.
If you wanted to use the Wraith Host formation, you do NOT need to take one of the Battlehosts. It is a fomation in itself. However, if you took a Battle Host AND the Wraith Host, the Wraith models would get access to Battle Focus (Wraith Host Bonus) AND can run 6" every time (Any Core Host bonus). But at this point you are no longer using Dark Eldar. | |
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CptMetal Dracon
Posts : 3069 Join date : 2015-03-03 Location : Ruhr Metropolian Area
| Subject: Re: Wraith Knight ally Mon May 18 2015, 15:21 | |
| Crap. Thanks anyway. _________________ http://www.thedarkcity.net/t12720-tainted-reborn
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helvexis Sybarite
Posts : 344 Join date : 2012-04-02 Location : Perth, Western Australia
| Subject: Re: Wraith Knight ally Tue May 19 2015, 01:41 | |
| id just take a revenant but they arent exactly cheap points or money wise | |
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