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Crisis_Vyper
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PostSubject: Kabal of the Rapturous Venom - Dark Eldar 1750 pts Mk 2 list   Kabal of the Rapturous Venom - Dark Eldar 1750 pts Mk 2 list I_icon_minitimeSat Sep 17 2011, 10:39

Well here is a Mk 2 of my army list, with less assaulting and more shooting, and some spreading of points across the board. I still think that this list needs a little work somehow, but I am not sure how. C&C appreciated.


HQ
Archon
Shadowfield
Agoniser
Combat Druges
Haywire Grenade

Total pts: 125 pts

Haemonculi
2 x Haemonculus

Total pts: 100 pts

Elites
1. Kabalite Trueborns
3 Trueborn with Blasters
1 Venom with 2 Splinter Cannons
Total pts: 146 pts

3. Kabalite Trueborns
3 Trueborn with Blasters
1 Venom with 2 Splinter Cannons
Total pts: 146 pts

Troops
1. Kabalite Warriors
5 Kabalite Warriors with Blaster
1 Venom with 2 Splinter Cannons

Total pts: 125 pts

2. Kabalite Warriors
5 Kabalite Warriors with Blaster
1 Venom with 2 Splinter Cannons

Total pts: 125 pts

3. Kabalite Warriors
5 Kabalite Warriors with Blaster
1 Raider with Flickerfield

Total pts 130 pts

4. Kabalite Warriors
5 Kabalite Warriors with Blaster
1 Raider with Flickerfield

Total pts 130 pts

5. Wych Squad
8 Wyches with Haywire Grenades and Hekatrii Upgrade with Agoniser
1 Raider with Flickerfield and shock prow

Total pts: 196 pts

6. Wych Squad
7 Wyches with Haywire Grenades and Hekatrii Upgrade with Venom Blade
1 Raider with Flickerfield and shock prow

Total pts: 169 pts

Heavy Support
1. Ravager
3 Dark Lances and Flickerfield

Total pts: 115 pts


2. Ravager
3 Dark Lances and Flickerfield

Total pts: 115 pts

3. Ravager
3 Dark Lances and Flickerfield

Total pts: 115 pts
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Shadows Revenge
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PostSubject: Re: Kabal of the Rapturous Venom - Dark Eldar 1750 pts Mk 2 list   Kabal of the Rapturous Venom - Dark Eldar 1750 pts Mk 2 list I_icon_minitimeSat Sep 17 2011, 14:22

Not bad, my one question is are those two walking pain tokens, I mean haemies worth the 100 pts??? With that 100 points, you could field two more blasterborn (maxing each squad at 4), get an angoniser on the smaller wych squad, and moving both wyches up to 9... Are you sure those two pain tokens are worth all of that???
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PostSubject: Re: Kabal of the Rapturous Venom - Dark Eldar 1750 pts Mk 2 list   Kabal of the Rapturous Venom - Dark Eldar 1750 pts Mk 2 list I_icon_minitimeSat Sep 17 2011, 15:18

Not bad at all.

I'd try and find the points to give the Heamonculus some liquifiers for tsome drive by flaming from the wyches raiders. I assume they are going with the wyches?
I'm not a great fan of the 5 man blaster warrior squad, but know others like them and they have their uses. I'd be tempted to drop 2 of them and get another haywire wych squad. I prefer these for AT duties over the single blaster warrior.
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PostSubject: Re: Kabal of the Rapturous Venom - Dark Eldar 1750 pts Mk 2 list   Kabal of the Rapturous Venom - Dark Eldar 1750 pts Mk 2 list I_icon_minitimeSat Sep 17 2011, 17:32

List looks good. I agree with Shadow and Kenny that the Haemies need to be more than just KPs and PT generators.

BTW that is the nicest looking list setup I've seen. Now if I can just convince everyone else to post lists like that. Clear and concise and not in violation of the rules. You get a gold star for that.


PS - your sig was removed because it was too big. please read the forum rules on sig sizes.
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PostSubject: Re: Kabal of the Rapturous Venom - Dark Eldar 1750 pts Mk 2 list   Kabal of the Rapturous Venom - Dark Eldar 1750 pts Mk 2 list I_icon_minitimeSat Sep 17 2011, 22:23

Shadows Revenge wrote:
Not bad, my one question is are those two walking pain tokens, I mean haemies worth the 100 pts??? With that 100 points, you could field two more blasterborn (maxing each squad at 4), get an angoniser on the smaller wych squad, and moving both wyches up to 9... Are you sure those two pain tokens are worth all of that???

So far I noticed that having two blasters more does not make a true difference unless it is a much larger game, and I prefer to strengthen my units overall than relying on two more blasters.

The smaller wych squad is where the Archon would attach herself, hence the lack of an agoniser there. My experience with two agonisers within a single squad often means I overkill things. As for the reason why I chose 7-8 wyches is because I would prefer not to overkill things and leave myself out in the open.

The pain tokens are used to enhance the wyches and the Archon in one go, and making the pain token generation less of a chore.

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I'd try and find the points to give the Haemonculus some liquifiers for some drive by flaming from the wyches raiders. I assume they are going with the wyches?

Yes, and I would love to incorporate the liquifier, but I do not have enough points for that. I just do not know what to take out to put the liquifier in.

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I'm not a great fan of the 5 man blaster warrior squad, but know others like them and they have their uses. I'd be tempted to drop 2 of them and get another haywire wych squad. I prefer these for AT duties over the single blaster warrior.

They supplement the Blasterborns as I am able to aim for more things in general rather than putting my eggs in one basket. And I will be honest here, the reason why took the warriors over the wyches is because I want to have more vehicles to suck up the anti-tank shots. I will admit that so far my wyches are unable to land their haywire grenades as of this moment, as my vehicles and Kabalites tend to bust the vehicles for me. Nonetheless I am still considering the Wych option, but I prefer to keep the numbers up. I may opt to put 5 wyches into a venom or something with grenades and venom blades and go ape-crazy with a multiple pronged assault thing.

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BTW that is the nicest looking list setup I've seen. Now if I can just convince everyone else to post lists like that. Clear and concise and not in violation of the rules. You get a gold star for that.

Thanks Tordeck. Smile

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PS - your sig was removed because it was too big. please read the forum rules on sig sizes.

Noted.
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PostSubject: Re: Kabal of the Rapturous Venom - Dark Eldar 1750 pts Mk 2 list   Kabal of the Rapturous Venom - Dark Eldar 1750 pts Mk 2 list I_icon_minitimeSat Sep 17 2011, 22:42

If the archon is going with the 2nd unit and your not gunna buy that squad a Agoniser, why bother with the hekatrix at all. With her gone and the points your already under you would have enough to get both Haemies Liquifier Guns.
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PostSubject: Re: Kabal of the Rapturous Venom - Dark Eldar 1750 pts Mk 2 list   Kabal of the Rapturous Venom - Dark Eldar 1750 pts Mk 2 list I_icon_minitimeSun Sep 18 2011, 00:14

Baron Tordeck wrote:
If the archon is going with the 2nd unit and your not gunna buy that squad a Agoniser, why bother with the hekatrix at all. With her gone and the points your already under you would have enough to get both Haemies Liquifier Guns.

You know, that sounds like a good idea. Just a little worried about assasination stuff to the extent that I never thought about it.
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