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PostSubject: 1500 pt pure Dark Eldar for league match   1500 pt pure Dark Eldar for league match I_icon_minitimeSun Aug 23 2015, 17:19

Hi all!

We have a league at our FLGS, with some not-so-average rules for "narrative" purposes.
My next match will be a Maelstrom match against a foot CSM list, with a Khorne theme.

He is on foot, because the special rule for this match makes all Infantry types move as Jump Infantry, and anyone with Jump rule moves up to 24".

Also due to narrative, I have to have an Archon as warlord, and he's gonna have a Kharn +30 cultist with 3 flamers blob.

I'm constrained by the number of my venoms and raiders, used all of them for the list!


Archon with shadow field, huskblade and soultrap in the Armour of Misery
(I had bad experiences with shadow field and if he dies, I suffer in the narrative)

5 incubi with klaivex in a raider with nightshield and disintegrator

2x 5 kabalite with blaster in venom with 2 splinter cannons

8 wyches and a hekatrix with agonizer in raider with nightshield and disintegrator

2x 5 scourges with 4 heat lances

2x 4 khymera and a beastmaster with agonizer

5 reavers and an arena champ with agonizer, 2 caltrops

2x ravager with 3 disintegrators


Plan is to shoot him whenever I can, and if one of my units gets into closed combat, charge it with more than one unit.
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PostSubject: Re: 1500 pt pure Dark Eldar for league match   1500 pt pure Dark Eldar for league match I_icon_minitimeMon Aug 24 2015, 17:07

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He is on foot, because the special rule for this match makes all Infantry types move as Jump Infantry, and anyone with Jump rule moves up to 24".
Thats crazy, I dig it. His khornate horde is gonna be pretty brutal.

So heres some ideas off the top of my head:

This is a really cool opportunity to abuse chain snares and templates. If you can I'd get some snares on a few skimmers plus some medusa's and/or even some liquifiers too. A combination of shock, burn assault should do excellently. Incubi in particular will wreck face and your running my preferred size and loadout. However in this instance I'd consider making the unit larger honestly. I've ran full squads of incubi in the past and they are murderously killy.

I also feel this is a HUGE opportunity to showcase what jump infantry grotesques are capable of. Seriously your not gonna get a better set of rules or match up then hordes vs beast mode grots packing an agonizer abby. Replace those wyches or something else but get them in there somewhere. A large blob on foot running 12" straight up centerfield head on is the stuff my dreams are made of.. say 7-8 strong to keep rampage since most CSM units are gonna be 10+.

The beastmasters agonizers otoh are gonna disappoint bad I feel. 25 pts for 1 attack is so bad not to mention infantry move the same speed as beasts making these guys even less appealing from my perspective.
If you really wanna take beasts I'd keep em bare as speed bumps to buy time for more shooting or even go with a couple single clawed fiends instead. Same purpose but cheaper and in some instances more durable too. Otherwise just get more infantry/bikes and again definitely some grots.

Also why the heat lances over say blasters or even more anti infantry weaponry if you know he's running foot horde, or am I missing something here?

Edit- just realized you said 24" moving jumps.. wow. So he's gonna be maxing those I would expect meaning you aren't gonna be speed bumping or shooting much. Use warriors or other expendable fodder as bubble wrap for your disi ravs and again make sure you have some counter punch in the above mentioned units because this game is all about assault.
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PostSubject: Re: 1500 pt pure Dark Eldar for league match   1500 pt pure Dark Eldar for league match I_icon_minitimeTue Aug 25 2015, 16:59

It's all about the speed - fun narrative rules Smile Fun for a one-off game, but unbalancing !

As a counter argument I don't think incubi are the best unit against cultists. You could keep them in because it's bound to have some marines in the list.

Grots are indeed made for this scenario, load up on any models you have the vaguely resemble a grot Smile

The beasts can work, but I would drop the agoniser and add as many models you have the vaguely resemble a krymerae.

Interestly I don't think the reavers will do that well, as I think they will just get swamped and wittled down. Scourges have a simular issue in that with the narrative rules if they fire their weapons they are in easy range of being charged by any infantry.

If you let us know what other models you could put in your list we can advise you better.

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PostSubject: Re: 1500 pt pure Dark Eldar for league match   1500 pt pure Dark Eldar for league match I_icon_minitimeTue Aug 25 2015, 17:15

The kymera are actually fantasy khorne hounds, and I have a total of 10 of them.
Don't have any grots, wracks or medusae, and only 2 venoms.

I have a Dark Artisan, but that would be slow and too many points in this game.

I have 20 hellions and 14 more reavers, but I thought 2x5 beastpack is better than 2x3 reavers.
Scourges are there for AP2 against termies and obliterators, and because of maelstrom objectives.
(he will field 2x2 obliterators and that gonna hurt my vehicles)
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PostSubject: Re: 1500 pt pure Dark Eldar for league match   1500 pt pure Dark Eldar for league match I_icon_minitimeTue Aug 25 2015, 19:39

Rathstar: I just read your blog, very helpful advices for cc dark eldar, and your conversions will help me make my own grots. Smile Thank you!
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PostSubject: Re: 1500 pt pure Dark Eldar for league match   1500 pt pure Dark Eldar for league match I_icon_minitimeThu Sep 03 2015, 02:16

Well the battle went pretty badly: my opponent used an Unbound list, and only brought Kharn, a sorcerer, and a unit 10 CSM for infantry... and 2 Sicaran, 3 Predators (2 with relic plasma cannons), and 2x2 Obliterators.

I tried to save as many of my scourges as possible, but they did a terrible job, because I rolled 3-4s on 2d6 armor penetration.

At the end I beat him 17 to 14 with maelstrom points, because he was sitting at the table end and I was turbo boosting back and forth on the table, claiming objectives for points.
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PostSubject: Re: 1500 pt pure Dark Eldar for league match   1500 pt pure Dark Eldar for league match I_icon_minitimeThu Sep 03 2015, 07:52

You won? So congrats! You played the mission while he concentraded on killing stuff.
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