Pure DE list

whenever I see people competitively play DE on any level they either use craftworlder allies, or haemonculous covens; but I really adore Kabalites. So I ask, what is your best 1500 point DE list without using any supplements, forgeworld or allies?

Being honest I'm kind of the same way. I prefer a pure Kabalite list, I usually keep it around this list with added abilities, others taken off etc. BUt my normal list consists of this

HQ
Archon-155
-Soul Trap
-Agoniser
-Shadowfield
-Haywire Grenade
-Armor of Misery
Drazhar, Master of Blades-190
Elites
Incubi x4-145
Incubi x4-175
-Klaivex
Kabalite Trueborn x5-140
-Blaster x3
-Dark Lance x2
Troops
Kabalite Warrior x7-74
-Syarbite
Kabalite Warior x5-40

Fast Attack
Razorwing Jetfighter-155
-Disintegrator Cannons
-x4 Monoscythe Missles
-Splinter Cannon
Scourge x5-125
-x3 Splinter Cannon
Venom x3-195
x3 Splinter cannon
Heavy Support
Ravager x2-250
x6 Dark Lance


Sorry for the units being all over the place. Each of the Archon and Drazhar is in each incubi squad and each are taking their own Venom, the Trueborn also take a Venom.

Again, I am still newish, and do plan on taking some units in and out to work with whatever I'm against, but for the most part this is my basic 1500 pt list

1499/1500

4 blasters and 1 dark lance would be cheaper and in almost all circumstances better for your trueborn squad. I also imagine you'll have a lot of trouble against mechanized armies. 11 darklight weapons are only going to get you so far. I also don't see the point in giving scourges splinter cannons when heat lances and haywire blasters are cheaper, and splinter cannons aren't significantly better than the shard carbines they get base. I hate ravagers, but that's a matter of taste.

I normally play 1850, and at that point total I take a CWE CAD and only take a a unit of Rangers, a unit of Windriders and an autarch for the ignores overwatch for my reavers, and the added utility is well over 350pts. When I play 1500 I go vanilla tho, so I'll add my 1500 points list as soon as I dig it up.


RRD(or CAD)
HQ
Archon-AoM, Shadowfield, Blaster, Power Sword, Haywire Grenades, WWP- 185
Haemonculus- Parasites kiss, Stinger Pistol, Agoniser, WWP- 140

Elite
Grotesques- 3xGrotesques, Raider(Dark Lance, Nightshield, Torment Grenade Launcher)- 195
Incubi- 8xIncubi, Klaivex, Raider(Dark Lance, Nightshield, Torment Grenade Launcher, aethersails)-285
Trueborn- 3xBlasters, 2xSplinter Cannons, Venom(Splinter Cannon)- 195

Troops
Warriors- 5xWarriors- 40
Warriors- 5xWarriors- 40

Fast Attack
Reavers- 2xReavers (Cluster Caltrops, Heatlance), Arena Champion(power sword)- 98
Scourges- 2xHeatlance, 2xBlaster, Solarite(Venom blade, Blast Pistol)-160
Scourges- 2xHaywire Blaster, 2xBlaster, Solarite(Venom blade, Blast Pistol)-160

TOTAL
1498

Most of of list is meant for the worst, I love Ravagers, and although I hear Scourge are to be tankbusters I like mine angled at anti-infantry, they are much more durable than most other anti infantry kabalites, the trueborn is better off with all blasters, but personal preference in me likes to keep the most distance possible, dark lances allow this and make the squad only just as deadly when getting rushed, I don't really use them to hunt enemy units I let them walk into it

I get that, and I suppose it justifies many of your decisions. The only one I feel it still fails to support is how you run scourges. Even if you adamantly want them to be your anti-personnel I think splinter cannons aren't the way to go. 7 Shard Carbines always put out 21 shots(and for 3 points more overall you'd ahve 8 which puts out 24), while 3 Carbines and 2 splinter cannons can only maximally put out 21 shots, and are more likely to only be able to put out 17.

If you can find the 3 points 8 Carbines are significantly better than what you're doing, and if not 7 carbines are as good or slightly better than 3 carbines and 2 splinter cannons. Of course if you only have the 5 guys I completely understand, but if you can field it 8 is the way to go for what you said you want to do.

Yeah, currently I only have the 5, I do plan on buying more here soon, its about 4 down on my list of units I want to buy, but if I do, the newer ones I will probably slap on with some haywire blasters.