MSU and dark Artisan against Crimson Fists 1500

He used two thunder fire canons, 5 squads of 5 dudes with heavy Bolter a dreadnought t in drop pod, one venerable one and one walking all with heavy flamers and Assault Cannon or additional heavy flamer for the drop pod one. Three grav centurion in a pod, a stalker and servitor squad with 2 heavy Bolter.

He dropped into my five Venom and crushed them one by one. Whereas I struggled to remove his drop pods from the two objectives.

Long story short, when my dark Artisan and the Medusae dropped in I wiped his side of the board but it wasn't enough because I failed to liberate my objectives and we ended with a tie because I thought objective secured troops would trump fast attack drop pods or a dreadnought. I'm not playing enough...

I tried to upload some pictures but they are too big

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0BxpcYyUPn0khQkVZWGtJYWt4VjQ

Here's a Google Drive link to the pictures I took. I hope it's working.

CptMetal wrote:

Long story short, when my dark Artisan and the Medusae dropped in I wiped his side of the board but it wasn't enough because I failed to liberate my objectives and we ended with a tie because I thought objective secured troops would trump fast attack drop pods or a  dreadnought. I'm not playing enough...

Unless drop pods are on tactical marines, or an objective secured formation, surely yours would in fact trump drop pods? Let alone dreadnoughts...

The fast attack drop pod or the one from the dreadnought is objective secured, too just like my Kabalite Warriors and their Venom.

Everything in a CAD seems to be objective secured and since he was using one too....

No. In a cad only troops and there dedicated are objective secured. Now if he was using a gladius strikbforce then every thing is.

If he was using a CAD and not an ObSec Formation, there is no way his FA Pods and Dread Pod were ObSec. Check page 122BRB. CAD provides obSec only for troops.

Are you talking about the combined arms detachments Description? I own the German rule book and it says that all units of this Detachment have the objective secured rule. Could you upload a picture please?

Here a link to the German version saying that all units in that Detachment have this special rule. Are you talking about that page?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxpcYyUPn0khY0J0OGVhNHU0azg/view?usp=docslist_api

http://cadiascreed40k.blogspot.com/2014/05/7th-ed-rules-battle-forged-balance.html?m=1

Something I found online, the English version. Its an old article with an at the time leaked image of objective secured. It states that all "troops units" have ObSec. I read that as only units that qualify as troops for the CAD requirement get the special rule.

Yes I was referring to that page. I don't speak German so I can't help you there. Maybe a translation issue?

Check this out Captain.
https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/Errata/Warhammer_40000/Warhammer_40000_Rules_DE.pdf

Thanks guys! The German errata is all I need. Now I just have to convince the campaign master to agree with it. He can be some kind of a bitch and unfortunately he's playing on the other side...

Tough spot if the TO doesn't respect actual GW eratta. Hope it works out for you

Some idiots are arguing that because my opponent didn't know the rules and even I didn't find them at first (didn't realize I had to look for the errata) that HE has the right to feel betrayed because it changed. But we first told everyone in the group I won and only after questions of this guy and my incapability to find the rule he immediately posted that it's a draw.

I'm done and I suggested to just ignore the game and don't count it because I would feel cheated. It's not my fault for them not knowing the rules!