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Adma Hellion
Posts : 69 Join date : 2016-03-29
| Subject: Ratios to live by Thu Jun 02 2016, 18:22 | |
| Salutations all!
As I read through posts and watch videos (skaredcast stuff) from time to time people like to mention little ratio formulas they like to use as a guide for army construction. For example, a dark lance per 100 points of army stuff, or a venom for every 500 points in a force. One assault unit per army, etc
What are some of the ratios you live by and why? | |
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CptMetal Dracon
Posts : 3069 Join date : 2015-03-03 Location : Ruhr Metropolian Area
| Subject: Re: Ratios to live by Fri Jun 03 2016, 08:42 | |
| I actually don't have any. Maybe just: Always get enough Kabalite Warrior troops. 3 at least for 1000 points +1.5 for every 500 points. | |
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skp Hellion
Posts : 89 Join date : 2015-02-05 Location : UK, Oxford
| Subject: Re: Ratios to live by Fri Jun 03 2016, 10:55 | |
| I simply go by roles, I try to get a well balanced army as possible with multi skilled units able to fit general roles, I play 1,500 with for venom warriors, I quite often sit warriors on objectives with venoms covering them, reavers/trueborn/ravagers/scourge for anti elite/tank.
In short there isn't really a winning ratio in my eyes, being flexible and being able to realise what units to ignore and hide from is key with DE, most people that I've seen on this forum seem to come across as if their marine armies, where as is.. Their not, we're a hit and run army that 'need' to skip, hop and tinkle over other armies.
Hope this gives a insight on how I play mate
Cheers, sKP | |
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Nariaklizhar Sybarite
Posts : 368 Join date : 2012-04-08 Location : California
| Subject: Re: Ratios to live by Fri Jun 03 2016, 16:02 | |
| I try and do a dark light weapon (Lance or blaster) for every 70pts. After that, I feel like I'll have enough poison to deal with everything else | |
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Evil Space Elves Haemonculus Ancient
Posts : 3717 Join date : 2011-07-13 Location : Santa Cruz, ca
| Subject: Re: Ratios to live by Fri Jun 03 2016, 19:22 | |
| Check out the latest episode of Splintermind. We interviewed Skari and Lawrence (Tabletop Tactics). They both went over ideas similar to this! *shameless plug | |
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CptMetal Dracon
Posts : 3069 Join date : 2015-03-03 Location : Ruhr Metropolian Area
| Subject: Re: Ratios to live by Fri Jun 03 2016, 20:31 | |
| I'll do if my small Trueborn let's me do it. | |
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Massaen Klaivex
Posts : 2268 Join date : 2011-07-05 Location : Western Australia
| Subject: Re: Ratios to live by Sat Jun 04 2016, 10:33 | |
| My rules for building a DE force
No unit should be more than 125 points Every unit should have at LEAST 1 dark light shot - Ideal ratio is 1 DL shot per 80 points At least 1 vehicle per 150 points | |
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Squidmaster Klaivex
Posts : 2225 Join date : 2013-12-18 Location : Hampshire, England
| Subject: Re: Ratios to live by Sat Jun 04 2016, 11:01 | |
| My rule: with only a single unit exception, no unit should start the game on the board if its not on a flying base. | |
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CptMetal Dracon
Posts : 3069 Join date : 2015-03-03 Location : Ruhr Metropolian Area
| Subject: Re: Ratios to live by Sat Jun 04 2016, 11:51 | |
| @Massaen What about a Grotesque unit in a grotesquerie? They are more expensive but now awesome, too! | |
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Adma Hellion
Posts : 69 Join date : 2016-03-29
| Subject: Re: Ratios to live by Sat Jun 04 2016, 14:45 | |
| Im through the first forty minutes or so of the podcast. Very nice! The rule of nines really reminds me of those old army building ratios! | |
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Massaen Klaivex
Posts : 2268 Join date : 2011-07-05 Location : Western Australia
| Subject: Re: Ratios to live by Sun Jun 05 2016, 14:37 | |
| - CptMetal wrote:
- @Massaen What about a Grotesque unit in a grotesquerie? They are more expensive but now awesome, too!
I don't use them as they break my rules! The way I run DE has no place for them... | |
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Nariaklizhar Sybarite
Posts : 368 Join date : 2012-04-08 Location : California
| Subject: Re: Ratios to live by Sun Jun 05 2016, 15:13 | |
| Rule of 9s reminds me of a fairly accurate way to quickly calculate the percentage of surface area burned on a burn victim | |
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Painjunky Wych
Posts : 871 Join date : 2011-08-08 Location : Sunshine Coast
| Subject: Re: Ratios to live by Tue Jun 07 2016, 12:18 | |
| Threat saturation + an anvil, is my only rule.
1 unit or vehicle per 100 pts MINIMUM. Not counting HQs but including the anvil.
The anvil is something tough like a grotesquerie, CTC, dark artisan, wraithknight, etc.
Reaver MSU FTW!!! | |
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RCZ Kabalite Warrior
Posts : 119 Join date : 2015-08-04 Location : ITALY, no ireland, WTF.
| Subject: Re: Ratios to live by Tue Jun 07 2016, 12:54 | |
| I follow similar guidelines as Painjunky:
1 Venom+5 men troops (and a blaster) each 250 pts. At least one tought centre-taker unit (i use often dark artisan formation).
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BetrayTheWorld Trueborn
Posts : 2665 Join date : 2013-04-04
| Subject: Re: Ratios to live by Tue Jun 07 2016, 18:29 | |
| I don't really have any hard and fast ratios, but I always try to pick at least 1 unit that I feel is severely underpriced, and use that to bulk out my force so that I can run deathstars and such without having a skeleton of an army. Examples of under-priced stuff:
Wraithknights Vaul's Wrath Support Batteries Hornets
I can't think of anything DE has that's really under-priced, except maybe Khymera. | |
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