1850 Coven/Corsair list

here are my thoughts 4 tough as nails units to ram down my oppenents throat.  switch the Haemonculus between formations to gain -2 leadership bubbles from those units. Attach Prince to third unit for -3 leadership bubble. Throw Dreamer in with squad of choice.  Dreamer takes 1 mandatory power from Corsair list. then goes sanctic for 2.  Prince goes Sanctic. Baron with Balestrikes goes divination.

Now what do i spend the last 20 points on?

Any suggestions or changes?

my first thought was lances on jetbikes to make better use of Titan Huntersbut wht to take out?


+++ grots (1830pts) +++

++ Dark Eldar: Supplement - Haemonculus Covens (Formation Detachment) (485pts) ++

+ Formation (485pts) +

Formation: Grotesquerie (485pts)
··Grotesques
····Aberration [Scissorhand]
····x2 Grotesque
····Raider [Disintegrator, Shock Prow]
··Grotesques
····Aberration [Scissorhand]
····x3 Grotesque
····Raider [Disintegrator, Shock Prow]
··Haemonculus

++ Dark Eldar: Supplement - Haemonculus Covens (Formation Detachment) (520pts) ++

+ Formation (520pts) +

Formation: Grotesquerie (520pts)
··Grotesques
····Aberration [Scissorhand]
····x3 Grotesque
····Raider [Disintegrator, Shock Prow]
··Grotesques
····Aberration [Scissorhand]
····x3 Grotesque
····Raider [Disintegrator, Shock Prow]
··Haemonculus

++ Eldar: Corsairs (2015) (EC Corsair Fleet Raiding Company [FW]) (845pts) ++

+ Cotorie (555pts) +

Cotorie (555pts) [Titan Breakers]
··Fast Attack
····Corsair Hornet Squadron
······Corsair Hornet [2x Pulse Laser]
······Corsair Hornet [2x Pulse Laser]
··Heavy Support
····Corsair Balestrike Band [Corsair Jet Packs, Mesh Armour]
······5x Corsair w/ Dark Lance
··HQ
····Corsair Baron [Corsair Jet Pack, Heavy Mesh Armour, Shimmershield, Wild Psyker (level 1)]
··Troops
····Corsair Cloud Dancer Band
······3x Cloud Dancer w/ Scatter Laser [3x Scatter Laser]
····Corsair Cloud Dancer Band
······3x Cloud Dancer w/ Scatter Laser [3x Scatter Laser]

+ Command Crew (290pts) +

Command Crew (270pts)
··Corsair Prince [Heavy Mesh Armour, Shadow Field, Void Sabre, Wild Psyker (Mastery Level 1)]
····Collector of Ancient Treasures [The Mask of Secrets]
··Corsair Void Dreamer [Heavy Mesh Armour, 3x Mastery Level, Shadow Field]

It would actually be -4 leadership for the one the Prince is in. Mask of secrets is -2 leadership in 12".

That said, I'm not sure I get what you're trying to do with the psychic choices here. Help us understand a bit. What are you going for on the sanctic powers chart, and how do you intend to use the powers you get?

BetrayTheWorld wrote:

It would actually be -4 leadership for the one the Prince is in. Mask of secrets is -2 leadership in 12".

You are correct if i put him in a unit with a Haemonculus.  however i might put him in a third unit of groteques for maximum bubble effect. and if another unit with a Haemonculus is within 12" of ememy then get -4.  might depend what powers are rolled where he goes.

BetrayTheWorld wrote:

That said, I'm not sure I get what you're trying to do with the psychic choices here. Help us understand a bit. What are you going for on the sanctic powers chart, and how do you intend to use the powers you get?

To be honest its all bonus.  I wanted better deny the witch. and more diece to throw to stop the critical power.  that said Sanctic because i don't have access to telepathy. lets break it down.

Baron - he rolls divination any but 1 or 6 or the rending power is good since he is with Balestrikes. ignores cover. otherwise the primaris is good.  this guy is the most vulnerable though we really want one of the 4 good Warp Charge 1 powers so we don't have to throw more than 2 dice at a power, because he is the only psyker vunerable to the perils chart.

Prince - all but immune to perils chart.  we care not for Sanctic primaris.  GOI is the worst power for us but still a good get out jail free card. Hammerhand Strength 7 prince and strength 7 or 8 Grotesques. yes please.  Sanctuary not super usefull because can't get 1+ invulnerable save. but giving grotesques an invulnerable save with there feel no pain. ok.  Purge Soul we are not a true Freak-show list we have no psychic shriek or mirror minds but this lets us have a little bit of that flavor.  Cleansing flame just good old damage. Vortex of doom A little D never hurt anyone, except your opponent.

Void Dreamer - We have to get one power from Aethermancy. Then 2 from Sanctic see above for details.

hope that clears it up a bit.

Rending on dark lances would be horrible. It literally does NOTHING for them. The AP2, they already have on every shot. And if they roll a 6 to penetrate or wound, they're already penetrating or wounding everything in the game, so an extra dice or autowound doesn't do anything. Granted, prescience is good for them, but it IS a warp charge 2 power on your 1 guy who is, as you said, vulnerable to the effects of perils. It'd be a damn expensive shame to have your super-expensive balestrike squad stuck in combat with their now daemon-prince former baron the first time he tries to use prescience, haha.

Honestly, I see what you're trying for here, and the 2 grotesquerie thing certainly may have it's place in certain types of lists, but I don't think that's here. I think you'd be better off to take only 1 grotesquerie and get some eldar allies in there to take advantage of the leadership penalties you're putting out with some psychic shrieks and such.

BetrayTheWorld wrote:

Rending on dark lances would be horrible.

you are absolutely correct my brain keeps thinking of rending from back in the day where it was on the to hit roll where you got the extra d3. that would be awesome.