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Archon_91 Wych
Posts : 925 Join date : 2017-01-03
| Subject: Re: Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia? Thu Jan 12 2017, 16:59 | |
| I agree it would make more sense to be with the new named shadowseer then with an exodite
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Logan Frost Sybarite
Posts : 465 Join date : 2016-01-25
| Subject: Re: Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia? Thu Jan 12 2017, 17:08 | |
| https://m.facebook.com/AAStudios/posts/765798546910854
Voices say Vect, Yriel and a mysterious voidwalker. Do we believe the voices? | |
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aurynn Incubi
Posts : 1626 Join date : 2013-04-23
| Subject: Re: Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia? Thu Jan 12 2017, 17:19 | |
| No Eldrad? Hmmm... I wonder what that implies... | |
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BetrayTheWorld Trueborn
Posts : 2665 Join date : 2013-04-04
| Subject: Re: Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia? Thu Jan 12 2017, 18:07 | |
| We already have rules and models for Eldrad. If the spoiler Count Adhemar posted earlier was accurate, then the factions involved were: Ulthwe Strike Force, alongside Wyches of Commorragh, and Warriors of Biel-Tan. So, the potential characters that make sense for each would be: Ulthwe: Eldrad is the obvious choice, but what about Taldeer? The Ulthwe farseer from the Dawn of War series was killed, and is said to have had her spirit stone saved, and she was brought back as a much smaller wraithknight(relic most likely meant to make her a wraithseer, but messed up their terminology). This could make sense for the character shown here: - Skulnbonz wrote:
Wyches of Commoragh: Vect is an obvious choice here, but we may also see a return of someone like Duke Sliscus. That would be pretty awesome, in my opinion. Warriors of Biel-Tan: Autarch Mauryon(unlikely in my opinion), or Avele Swifteye, a Duke of Asteri reach and a corsair from Biel-Tan. So if they're really trying to tie all the factions together to lead up to a future release of an all-inclusive Eldar book, with the evidence we have right now, the most obvious choices would be Avele Swifteye, Farseer Taldeer, and Vect. This would tie in Craftworld Eldar(Ulthwe), Dark Eldar(Vect), Exodites(Avele), Corsairs(Avele), and Harlequins(The shadowseer who brokered it all). This would also tie in with the lore from the upcoming Dawn of War 3 game, in which Taldeer is supposed to appear. | |
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CurstAlchemist Wych
Posts : 915 Join date : 2015-05-01
| Subject: Re: Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia? Thu Jan 12 2017, 18:20 | |
| With GW moving several things more towards their mainline and away from Forgeworld, maybe we will be getting Eldar Corsairs (they were always a minor part of their Forgeworld line). In the fluff for them they obtain equipment from both Craftworld and Dark Eldar so having equipment that is mixed could fit with it. Maybe I'm just trying really hard in hoping that it isn't a portent of Dark Eldar and Craftworld Eldar being discontinued and he "New Eldar Empire" line making all old miniatures obsolete and have no place in 40k.
As a side note, I never actually thought it was an Exodite, I was just commenting that GW has established in the lore that Exodites will ally and leave their homes from time to time. Given that most of their planets are exposed to invasion (do to being stationary and often times in the middle of hostile spheres of power), I agree it wouldn't be often that they would choose to leave their worlds but I don't remember reading anywhere that explicitly stated that they will never leave (correct me if there is something I missed). | |
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aurynn Incubi
Posts : 1626 Join date : 2013-04-23
| Subject: Re: Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia? Thu Jan 12 2017, 18:56 | |
| Well there is a possibility that they would want to release a whole new faction in sigmarite style and that could be Exodites based on Sylvaneth design. BUT... I dont see that as probable because: - The Exodites are different at every planet. Different animals, different culture. - They are ill-equipped to wage a galaxy-wide conflict - They generally want to be left alone. They care about their world, not Eldar race. | |
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fisheyes Klaivex
Posts : 2150 Join date : 2016-02-18
| Subject: Re: Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia? Thu Jan 12 2017, 19:01 | |
| Thanks for the link @Logan Frost. Not sure how cannon that link is, but the thing that jumped out at me was "The Eye is Closed" and the removal of Slaanesh. WTF? | |
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Logan Frost Sybarite
Posts : 465 Join date : 2016-01-25
| Subject: Re: Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia? Thu Jan 12 2017, 19:11 | |
| My link is very far from GW official. It's from the page of a painting service group. So it is at least third hand rumors. | |
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aurynn Incubi
Posts : 1626 Join date : 2013-04-23
| Subject: Re: Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia? Thu Jan 12 2017, 19:26 | |
| Closing of the Eye is something I suspected long ago. Its hinted at in the new book as the activation of the Pylons of Cadia make the Eye shrinks infinitesimaly. Removal of Slaanesh follows the AoS course and GW course towards the younger players.
My bet is: - Eye closes and a Chaos Empire is established at its previous location plus what has been conquered during the 13th Black Crusade. - Slaanesh will either be undone or reformed through Ceogorach's plots. - Eldar gods may return and begin reformation of the Eldar societies. - Eldar migh leave Craftworlds and settle their own area of the galaxy next to the former EoT clockwise on the Galaxy map. - Emperor will either die or be reborn. - Some or all Primarchs will return and either shrink the empire in an attempt to consolidate and reform or shatter it under 9 banners of the legions. - Daemons remain "a threat beyond the veil". - Tau develop Warp travel and establish an empire of their own (they are the only ones who are kinda off. TBH fluff-wise they are totally needless. - Empire as a whole will concentrate much of its power onto its internal workings, leaving the defence of its portions in the hands of the respective legions, therefore losing the collective potential to be the strongest power in the galaxy that is only limited by warp travel and communication. - They will acknowledge the Xenos not being the major threat, but Chaos is. - Webway will be opened for the Empire, which with the previous will - An age of rediscovery will begin both in exploration and technology for all the races. - Necron and Nids will serve as forces of general destruction (AoS style) - Next edition timeline will establish a kind of power balance within the galaxy with no side having the upper hand and Necron and Nids as free elements. Perhaps even the Tau.
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The Red King Hekatrix
Posts : 1239 Join date : 2013-07-09
| Subject: Re: Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia? Thu Jan 12 2017, 19:47 | |
| Actually if you think about it we know the harlequins have a plan to screw chaos over, and it seems sending a planet full of warp canceling pylons info the maelstrom could serve that purpose. It might explain why Veilwalker was there. | |
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Ynneadwraith Twisted
Posts : 1236 Join date : 2016-09-21
| Subject: Re: Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia? Thu Jan 12 2017, 20:08 | |
| Eldar from Biel-Tan?
Oh good god plastic aspect warriors are coming.
I know this is a DEldar forum, but I am so damn excited for plastic aspects. Just think of the kitbash possibilities!
Alongside a Trueborn kit and some plastic named characters I can see myself becoming very poor very very quickly... | |
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aurynn Incubi
Posts : 1626 Join date : 2013-04-23
| Subject: Re: Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia? Thu Jan 12 2017, 21:07 | |
| If half of the rumours are true, then poverty is just a few clicks away for me... @Ynneadwraith - if the plastic aspects are coming AND we are rolled into one army... THEN get yourself some supplies as you will be thinking of the kitbash possibilities for next few months... :-D EDIT: Now something awful struck me... With the rumours of Khan leading DE... The big warrior in pictures... I dont want to say it loud... DE equipment could be manufactured in Primarch size though... | |
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eohall Hellion
Posts : 74 Join date : 2012-04-16 Location : Newton, MA
| Subject: Re: Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia? Fri Jan 13 2017, 02:08 | |
| Took a quick look through and didn't see this posted yet (though it has been alluded to) | |
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amorrowlyday Hekatrix
Posts : 1318 Join date : 2015-03-15 Location : Massachusetts
| Subject: Re: Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia? Fri Jan 13 2017, 02:12 | |
| Thanks! btw if you actively play I'm TOing an ITC event in Auburn (south of Worcester, MA) on the 28th.
Back on topic: I'm calling it now that I actually get to read context: maybe Prince Yriel but more about the second figure I feel strongly that that's Lady Malys even though we haven't had any leaks to suggest that. | |
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Logan Frost Sybarite
Posts : 465 Join date : 2016-01-25
| Subject: Re: Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia? Fri Jan 13 2017, 03:56 | |
| - amorrowlyday wrote:
- I feel strongly that that's Lady Malys
A female eldar in a gown calmly walking between harlequins, fits the description. | |
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amorrowlyday Hekatrix
Posts : 1318 Join date : 2015-03-15 Location : Massachusetts
| Subject: Re: Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia? Fri Jan 13 2017, 04:31 | |
| OMGOMGOMGOMG A THOUGHT especially since you saw fit to bring the gown bit back up: Remember this? | |
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TeenageAngst Incubi
Posts : 1846 Join date : 2016-08-29
| Subject: Re: Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia? Fri Jan 13 2017, 04:58 | |
| Whatever it is I just hope it doesn't suck. Of course that could be said about most things but especially in relation to the Dark Eldar/Harlequins. | |
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tibersky Hellion
Posts : 43 Join date : 2013-09-07
| Subject: Re: Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia? Fri Jan 13 2017, 05:17 | |
| Anyone thought it may be a new Drazhar kit? Akin to aspect plate but the cruelness of Dark Eldar armor. It has the Incubi trophy racks. That's what seems the most likely to me. | |
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aurynn Incubi
Posts : 1626 Join date : 2013-04-23
| Subject: Re: Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia? Fri Jan 13 2017, 06:25 | |
| Malys? Well rumours talk about Wyches of Commoragh. Malys is an Archon, not a Succubus. | |
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amorrowlyday Hekatrix
Posts : 1318 Join date : 2015-03-15 Location : Massachusetts
| Subject: Re: Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia? Fri Jan 13 2017, 06:33 | |
| Malys is an Archon with a wide number of Wych cults in service to her who willingly and freely associates with harlequins. | |
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aurynn Incubi
Posts : 1626 Join date : 2013-04-23
| Subject: Re: Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia? Fri Jan 13 2017, 07:05 | |
| Interesting... if it is her then... why no Kabals? She does not want the help to be indirect as she is there personally. What point would it serve not to bring other forces? She is a master strategist though. Kabal forces might have another role, like Space and Webway.
From GW point of view - Wyches are probably the next target for boosted sales, so it makes sense. If the Trueborn kit rumour is true, it implies the Kabal involvement in next stages of the conflict...
Well I find this kinda exciting. :-) | |
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The Red King Hekatrix
Posts : 1239 Join date : 2013-07-09
| Subject: Re: Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia? Fri Jan 13 2017, 07:09 | |
| It seems the latest rumors and signs point to another triumvirate. This one Eldar containing Vect, Yriel and Veilwalker.
If so maybe we will see similarly overpowered heroes. Something quite similar to the end times if I am not mistaken. | |
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aurynn Incubi
Posts : 1626 Join date : 2013-04-23
| Subject: Re: Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia? Fri Jan 13 2017, 07:28 | |
| Yea. I agree. This will be "end times" style. These triumvirates and formations with max units bonuses and various hints point towards something. Bigger battles to mitigate the power of these heroes? Different formats? Rebalancing the points costs from scratch? Return of primarchs is a big thing that could unbalance the system. If I was GW and wanted to both promote sales AND sell primarchs, I would make them available for, say, minimum 3000 pts battles (which can still be easily played on 6x4' table), change FOCs in such battles to Decurions and forbid allies when Primarch is present. This could make tactically distinct forces, make use of the large collections that some people have and still profit on the iconic models, while these heroes' powers is dissolved by numbers as they are a nuts powerhouse when they take up 30% of your army, but far less when they are only 20% of the army.
EDIT: And... such battles would mitigate one of the angsts I hear from players: That in 1850 format games end after few turns way too often due to the fact that this format is limiting redundancies and one bad turn can spell inability for a player to carry his game. But... here we are, looking at very long games... so... simplification of rules... e.g. 8th... not by much. Just to shorten the turns... | |
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BizarreShowbiz Sybarite
Posts : 250 Join date : 2014-11-16
| Subject: Re: Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia? Fri Jan 13 2017, 09:38 | |
| I dont think its Vect. The armour design and description makes me think it is more likely to be Drazhar. | |
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The Red King Hekatrix
Posts : 1239 Join date : 2013-07-09
| Subject: Re: Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia? Fri Jan 13 2017, 09:40 | |
| I believe Vect could be the figure mentioned in the fluff page posted above. The figure amidst the Eldar directing it all. | |
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