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PostSubject: Re: Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia?   Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia? - Page 8 I_icon_minitimeFri Jan 13 2017, 09:51

It says that it's the female eldar (the harlequin, probably Sylandri seeing as she's named) that's directing proceedings.

The other dude's just standing there looking mysterious, but given that Yriel's been named maybe him? If so then why no Dark Eldar dude?

The end of it worries me slightly. 'There is a parley to be struck, if you have the courage'.

Could we see this new Eldar triumvirate (which I have less of a problem with) allied with the Imperium?!

Oh good god.
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Ynneadwraith wrote:
It says that it's the female eldar (the harlequin, probably Sylandri seeing as she's named) that's directing proceedings.

The other dude's just standing there looking mysterious, but given that Yriel's been named maybe him? If so then why no Dark Eldar dude?

The "female attired in an elaborate gown" is a different person to the Shadowseer, Veilwalker. I suspect it's the model that we've seen a glimpse of, with the purple robe. Who that is, I have no idea but I hope it's Malys.

The "warrior in crimson", the one in the Black Templar's selfie, is rumoured to be Yriel but that is unconfirmed and I'm not sure either way as yet.

The third of the triumvirate is presumably the Harlequin Veilwalker.
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PostSubject: Re: Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia?   Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia? - Page 8 I_icon_minitimeFri Jan 13 2017, 10:03

Keep in mind that the gate in Commorragh would be the solution for GW to achieve the Eldar empire.

Force the Eldar out of the Webway and create a reason to unify the Eldar race.
Someone mentioned the idea of a chaos empire when the eye collapses, because it was shrinking at one point, but in the spoilers it is said that the Mechanicus dude realised his error and ' he opened the door wider than before'.
So that makes the Eldar empire idea kind of unrealistic though...

The lady in the gown is most likely Lady Malys and keep in mind that Eldrad is confirmed too.
So the third one can be our beloved corsair prince or the right hand archon of Vect.
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PostSubject: Re: Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia?   Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia? - Page 8 I_icon_minitimeFri Jan 13 2017, 10:07

Well I meant the "shrinking" as a proof of the possibility, not proof that its happening now. I do not think Cadia itself will cause the collapse so early in the campaign. We are looking at Harlies orchestrating events - means ploys within ploys. The story is not at the end and what begins as Chaos invasion and expansion can easily end up with the gate closed behind them.
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PostSubject: Re: Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia?   Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia? - Page 8 I_icon_minitimeFri Jan 13 2017, 10:13

The Shadowseer reveals to Cawl that there are other planets with pylons on them so shrinking the Eye of Terror may well be their plan - just not from Cadia. And @CptMetal Eldrad is definitely present but may not be part of the rumoured Triumvirate, as he already has a new model and existing rules.
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PostSubject: Re: Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia?   Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia? - Page 8 I_icon_minitimeFri Jan 13 2017, 12:05

I agree. Eldrad got his spotlight already. He may be Teclisified though, sort of. IIRC his brother became Slaanesh in a sense. He might get imbued with some Eldar god.
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PostSubject: Re: Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia?   Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia? - Page 8 I_icon_minitimeFri Jan 13 2017, 12:07

There have been enough re-releases of Eldrad lately for me to believe that he will only get a shout-out, not a full rule re-re-release.

But nice to see some more progression! Yay DE!

Still not too happy about the supposed Eldar Empire getting reformed though... Oh well, if thats the price we need to pay for better table-top rules than I guess we can stomach it. (For now anyway >Wink )
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PostSubject: Re: Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia?   Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia? - Page 8 I_icon_minitimeFri Jan 13 2017, 12:08

I mean I guess we are two different people. The reforming of the Eldar Empire is exactly what my Kabal wants.
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The Red King wrote:
I mean I guess we are two different people.  The reforming of the Eldar Empire is exactly what my Kabal wants.
That was one of my Archon's orginal motivations so I'm eager for an Eldar Empire.

Speaking of the Eldar Empire I have a thought. If the Dark Eldar are forcibly moved to realspace... They'd have to find some other way to sustain their souls (I guess they could continue their raiding but that seems much more inefficient then before), but I think the Eldar factions would try to find some way to lesson the impact Slaanesh has on the Deldars souls.

IF that happens do you think we could start seeing Dark Eldar Psykers? I know we aren't a psychic faction but I like the idea of US having sadistic psykers something along the lines of the Dark Elves.
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PostSubject: Re: Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia?   Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia? - Page 8 I_icon_minitimeFri Jan 13 2017, 12:53

I believe if the end times progress far enough to bring the Dark Eldar to real space it'll be because cegorach's gambit paid off and Slaneesh was "defeated" if this releases the eldar pantheon from his/her/it's bowels that would also be a good excuse to bring exodites into the game, lead by the restored Kurnous.
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PostSubject: Re: Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia?   Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia? - Page 8 I_icon_minitimeFri Jan 13 2017, 16:46

I wonder if we're going to end up with less of a Triumvirate and more of a Quartet? Eldrad got a new model but it's only in the now unavailable Death Masque box set, a general release is to be expected at some point. For me the "femal in robes directing proceedings" screams Aurelia Malys, so maybe the rumours of Vect have got their Archons mixed up, and she absolutely would fit that picture of a purple cloak we previously saw. Sylendri Veilwalker would be the obvious choice for the Harlequins as once again she's proving to be a very prominent, recurring character of theirs (and it's about sodding time they got an HQ choice). That just leaves the red armoured guy. If my above wild speculation is spot on then a new Prince Yriel would be a good fit due to his links to Harlequins, Craftworld, Corsair and Dark Eldar, though the blurry photo doesn't look like he's holding the Spear of Twilight which would be worrying.

The other alternative for the red guy is the rumoured Sythrac, which would clash horribly with the rest of my speculation as I find it very difficult to believe that Vect's right hand man would be working alongside Malys unless GW intend to kill Vect off, or at least sideline him, via Malys and Sythrac working together to usurp the Black Heart.

I hope it's Prince Yriel.
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PostSubject: Re: Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia?   Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia? - Page 8 I_icon_minitimeFri Jan 13 2017, 16:48

I do not think that Vect will die. Every faction will have a "primarch" character IMO. And the only one we have is Vect. But I fear we will have to survive his Malekithation. :-)
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PostSubject: Re: Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia?   Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia? - Page 8 I_icon_minitimeFri Jan 13 2017, 16:53

Most factions don't have Primarch level characters, nor should they. If you're talking absolute leaders, most factions already have that, and Malys could fill that just as easily as Vect does for DE.
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The guy in red probably is not Sythrac, the kabal colors are wrong. Do you see Vect sending around His right hand with someone else colour?
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Then they drop this today....Probably goes with that purple cloak model....
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PostSubject: Re: Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia?   Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia? - Page 8 I_icon_minitimeFri Jan 13 2017, 17:33

Given the colours it could just as easily go with some of the new Tzeentch stuff.
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PostSubject: Re: Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia?   Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia? - Page 8 I_icon_minitimeFri Jan 13 2017, 17:41

It's a gyrinx an animal companion and prized pet usually seen with eldar of any kind, dark eldar included.
Source: lexicanum.

My archon does want a gyrinx very much. Can I have one please?
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Yeah, scratch what I said, nothing to do with Tzeentch.
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Imateria wrote:
Given the colours it could just as easily go with some of the new Tzeentch stuff.

I don't think an AOS tzeentchian would have a WH40K animal as a familiar.
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PostSubject: Re: Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia?   Dark Eldar in Fall of Cadia? - Page 8 I_icon_minitimeFri Jan 13 2017, 18:31

I didnt mean "Primarch" as in WS8 S8 T7 W6 2+/3++ thing. I mean 80-pounds iconic model with rules to fit it. Malys? Noooo... As much as I like her and want her back as special character, I think we will be getting Vect with his Dais...
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The post on Warhammer Community includes both an old illustration of an Eldar with a Gyrinx and a comment about all the extra space on the base (presumably for some Eldar or other to stand).

I'm definitely happy about Eldar space kitties. Even if they turn up in the bathroom.

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As for Lady Malys, I'm not so sure. First, I think the only Dark Eldar specifically mentioned in Gathering Storm were Wyches. If there's going to be a Dark Eldar character involved, that makes it more likely to be from a Cult. Malys getting involved but leaving her entire Kabal at home, including personal bodyguards, seems weird. Second, the thing that might be a cloak in the rumor image is purple. The Poisoned Tongue wear blue.

Interestingly, that old piece of Eldar art with the Gyrinx has been colorized, and his robes are purple.
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Yes, Malys does not fits in a wych cult, but I don't imagine a succubus in a gown. She does fits amidst harlequins, and what better bodyguards of them (incubi excluded, or sslyths, OK they are not good bodyguard choice)
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I PREDICT that the "cloak" thing we've been chatting about which looks like it has a Dark Eldar vehcile pattern on is a CARPET, and we finally get a Vect model, standing over this damn cat, hands on hips, telling him off for clawing at the carpet.
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It is possible (with their "quality" of writing these days) that GW decided to just kill Vect to throw the Dark Eldar "status quo" into disarray.
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A follow-up on Gyrinx, because I decided to look up their entry in my old copy of Rogue Trader:

Gyrinx are psychic and empathic. They form a psychic bond with their owner, and "show a slow metabolic change so that they come to resemble their owner physically, temperamentally, and in habit." They understand instructions, can communicate simple messages, and will remain with their owner at all times unless ordered away.

In game terms, they provided +1 to hit in shooting and close combat, +1 to Initiative. If owned by a psyker, they could store up to 5 psi-points, and the psyker could communicate telepathically with them for free.
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