How to play against Ynnari

It seems like a daunting prospect considering the fact the new faction is so overpowered. In theory a mirror list would hold an advantage against a Dark Eldar player due to their better army-wide rules, but this compounds with them having access to 2 entire other codexes. How are Kabalite Warriors in Venoms and Reavers and Grotesques supposed to match against scatbike spider spam, but now with double shooting and Phantasmancy? I honestly don't have any answer for this, just some musings so far:

- Dark Eldar CADs can bring fortifications so Void Shield Generators and Aegis Defense Lines are viable options.

- Dark Eldar have cheap obsec. 2 CADs can field 24 ob-sec units. The downside is this would allow the Ynnari to proc over and over by killing small things. Not sure if it's worth it.

- Air Superiority Detachments aren't available to Ynnari, so that's major bonuses to reserve manipulation for Dark Eldar and the possibility of making their flyers stupidly powerful the turn they come on. Ynnari are also extremely vulnerable to the missiles and disintegrators of the Razorwing Jetfighters.

Those advantages don't really seem that strong though. Against a normal CWE list I have answers but those answers go away the moment the opponent gets to do things when their stuff dies.

In reality, putting pure DE against Ynnari is an uphill battle from the start. We're considered to be one of the lower tier armies, and pitting them against a conglomeration of all of the cheesy Eldar units seems doomed to fail.

Personally, against Ynnari, I think that running pure Covens will be our best shot. Grots and Pain engines give us high toughness multi-wound models that'll at least deny them some Soulbursting. But whether or not that's worth sacrificing the higher mobility of our army is arguable.

TeenageAngst wrote:

Against a normal CWE list I have answers but those answers go away the moment the opponent gets to do things when their stuff dies.

They also get to do things when your stuff dies, it always says Aeldari on those soulburst special rules.
So for once Dark Eldar lives matter too, but not in a good way for us.
Actually i think we are, like, the ideal opponent for Ynnari.

I had a game from the book, my Dark Eldar + Coven Vs Ynnari Triumvirate + Ynnari Dark Eldar.
It was bad, well i'm bad at this game too so take that with a grain of salt.

We are vehicle heavy and long range, perhaps we could use that instead of masses of dudes.

Be able to cripple nearly every unit simultaneously.

I don't play strict DE so my list would be structured differently to make use of corsairs as well, and is why my version of this question a couple of weeks ago was more general ie  I asked how to beat soulburst lists without soulburst, since I've seriously considered forgoing the soulburst benefit and just using Ynnari for FOC manipulation, but anyway my solution is a Covenite Cotorie and a DE CAD. 3-6 units of grotesques in raiders, I like agonizers, and 2 Haemonculi probs with WWP's. Each haemy goes in a squad consisting of either 2 sslyths and a Medusae or 3 sslyths and 2 medusae, each in a raider. Raider Kabalites with a shredder, and a little bit of actual anti-vehicle like Haywire scourges. I'd consider a voidraven.

I just don't know how to kill the wraithknight without allies.