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+4Mppqlmd Archon_91 Subsanity Groan 8 posters |
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Groan Hellion
Posts : 46 Join date : 2017-07-17
| Subject: 5 Blasters in a Venom? Tue Jul 18 2017, 19:22 | |
| Unsure if this is an obvious question, but:
With the Under Strength Unit rule, is it possible to have a 4 man Blastborn squad paired up with an Archon (with a blaster) inside of a Venom? | |
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Subsanity Sybarite
Posts : 277 Join date : 2016-10-13 Location : Tulsa, OK
| Subject: Re: 5 Blasters in a Venom? Tue Jul 18 2017, 20:23 | |
| Yes, you could also take a 2x 5man with 5 DL and 5 blasters in raider. | |
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Groan Hellion
Posts : 46 Join date : 2017-07-17
| Subject: Re: 5 Blasters in a Venom? Tue Jul 18 2017, 21:22 | |
| How would you do that? Trueborns are limited to 2 DS a squad and 4 Blasters a squad, no? | |
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Archon_91 Wych
Posts : 925 Join date : 2017-01-03
| Subject: Re: 5 Blasters in a Venom? Tue Jul 18 2017, 21:40 | |
| Each squad of true born would do 2 dark lances and 3 blasters and counting the raiders dark lance it now has 5 dark lances between itself and the two squads and 6 blasters ... Expensive ... But will more then likely destroy whatever it's pointed at unless rolls are really really bad | |
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Mppqlmd Incubi
Posts : 1844 Join date : 2017-07-05
| Subject: Re: 5 Blasters in a Venom? Tue Jul 18 2017, 22:04 | |
| - Groan wrote:
- Unsure if this is an obvious question, but:
With the Under Strength Unit rule, is it possible to have a 4 man Blastborn squad paired up with an Archon (with a blaster) inside of a Venom? The only limitation is that you can't have any other unit of blasterborn in your army. | |
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Groan Hellion
Posts : 46 Join date : 2017-07-17
| Subject: Re: 5 Blasters in a Venom? Tue Jul 18 2017, 22:16 | |
| - Archon_91 wrote:
- Each squad of true born would do 2 dark lances and 3 blasters and counting the raiders dark lance it now has 5 dark lances between itself and the two squads and 6 blasters ... Expensive ... But will more then likely destroy whatever it's pointed at unless rolls are really really bad
This I understand though it doesn't seem like a good idea. And I don't think the above mentioned 5 DL and 5 Blasters is possible. The limitation of only have one unit of Trueborn on the table seems fair to me! 5 Blasters in a Venom would be awesome and would actually give my Archon a purpose. | |
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MHaruspex Kabalite Warrior
Posts : 125 Join date : 2015-06-02
| Subject: Re: 5 Blasters in a Venom? Tue Jul 18 2017, 23:49 | |
| That's how I've been running mine. It's a nice unit, easy to hide, and fast for swinging around the flank.
Just had a fun game where the Venom spent a few turns slamming into a pair of Basilisks repeatedly while the Trueborn and Archon poured fire (along with supporting fire from a Ravager) into any units that tried to move in to assist. | |
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Mppqlmd Incubi
Posts : 1844 Join date : 2017-07-05
| Subject: Re: 5 Blasters in a Venom? Wed Jul 19 2017, 00:59 | |
| - MHaruspex wrote:
- Just had a fun game where the Venom spent a few turns slamming into a pair of Basilisks repeatedly while the Trueborn and Archon poured fire (along with supporting fire from a Ravager) into any units that tried to move in to assist.
You know embarked troops can't shoot if the vehicle fell back ? So did your Archon and Trueborn get out of the venom ? | |
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MHaruspex Kabalite Warrior
Posts : 125 Join date : 2015-06-02
| Subject: Re: 5 Blasters in a Venom? Wed Jul 19 2017, 01:01 | |
| The Venom never fell back, only the Basilisks. Eventually they gave up and stayed in combat with the Venom, and at that point a group of Razorwing Flocks took the Venom's place while the embarked Archon and retinue moved on to other targets. | |
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masamune Sybarite
Posts : 445 Join date : 2017-06-22 Location : Paris
| Subject: Re: 5 Blasters in a Venom? Wed Jul 19 2017, 11:44 | |
| @Groan You can always have multiples units of trueborns, but you can only have one unit understrength Résumé of what you can have (for example, dis is not recommended point wise x')) - Raider / 1 DL -- 5 trueborns / 2DL + 3 Blasters -- 5 trueborns / 2DL + 3 Blasters - Raider / 1 DL -- 5 trueborns / 2DL + 3 Blasters -- 5 trueborns / 2DL + 3 Blasters - Venom / 2 Splinter cannon -- 4 trueborns / 2DL + 2 Blasters (understrength)-- Archon / 1 Blaster The point is for an army, you can have only one understrength unit of each type.Edit : Sadly, no you can't . cf. posts below.
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|Meavar Hekatrix
Posts : 1041 Join date : 2017-01-26
| Subject: Re: 5 Blasters in a Venom? Wed Jul 19 2017, 11:55 | |
| I beg to differ, it mentions: You can have 1 unit of that type in your army with as many models as you have availible. So a unit of 5 trueborn and a unit of 4 trueborn that means you have 2 units of that type (trueborn) which is illegal. As soon as you field a unit of 5 you cannot field an understrength unit anymore. | |
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Count Adhemar Dark Lord of Granbretan
Posts : 7610 Join date : 2012-04-26 Location : London
| Subject: Re: 5 Blasters in a Venom? Wed Jul 19 2017, 12:35 | |
| Sadly I have to agree. I initially read it the same way as masamune but that's not what it actually says. | |
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masamune Sybarite
Posts : 445 Join date : 2017-06-22 Location : Paris
| Subject: Re: 5 Blasters in a Venom? Wed Jul 19 2017, 13:30 | |
| Post edited, my bad This rule seems pretty retarded | |
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Mppqlmd Incubi
Posts : 1844 Join date : 2017-07-05
| Subject: Re: 5 Blasters in a Venom? Wed Jul 19 2017, 16:27 | |
| - masamune wrote:
- Post edited, my bad
This rule seems pretty retarded It's all logical. The rule is there to allow you to play even if you don't have the minimum number of models. With 9 models (5 and 4), you clearly have the minimum number of models (you could play one unit of 9, even though it sucks), so you cannot claim to use this rule. | |
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