DE Codex Wishlisting

angelrei wrote:

Warriors could use the option to have two special weapons in a squad of 5 or a special weapon and a heavy weapon and if their a squad of ten just give other weapon option as True born can take 4 special and 2 heavy if I remember right and also give warriors grenades and true born a DE version of krak along with their normal grenades.

But thats kinda what Trueborn are for, DE Troops are about cheap bodies, we have elite version for a couple points more to give us options.

amishprn86 wrote:

But thats kinda what Trueborn are for, DE Troops are about cheap bodies, we have elite version for a couple points more to give us options.

I'm still a newb with alot of stuff, but I have now been enlighten, but grenades for warriors still would be nice, even guard get grenades to throw.

Yeah that be fine, but they seem to be not giving our nades to many Xenos units.

Thats so raciest, Xenos deserve to blow things up just like the Imperium.

Everyone knows that Grenades are arcane technology only used by advanced races like the Imperium and Orks. Primitive races like Eldar and Necrons are still developing devices that sophisticated.

Ignore the grenades on the models. Clearly a casting error.

Kabalites are even wearing grenades on the model, i think. Those tiny little jars look like plasma grenades to me.

Mppqlmd wrote:

Kabalites are even wearing grenades on the model, i think. Those tiny little jars look like plasma grenades to me.

You are clearly imagining things. Like Craftworlders were imagining things throughout the 4th edition codex.

FuelDrop wrote:

You are clearly imagining things.

Probably Adrenalight. When the +1 Attack kicks into your veins you can become a bit confused. Drinking fresh blood from a skull helps to ease the headache. Kinda. I need to talk to my Physician about it anyway.

Mppqlmd wrote:

FuelDrop wrote:

You are clearly imagining things.

Probably Adrenalight. When the +1 Attack kicks into your veins you can become a bit confused. Drinking fresh blood from a skull helps to ease the headache. Kinda. I need to talk to my Physician about it anyway.

Drugs are bad. Units that use them are bad. Everyone knows that!

Not if you're a beastmaster and you can bring 40 billions birds with you everytime you trip on some acid

Mppqlmd wrote:

Not if you're a beastmaster and you can bring 40 billions birds with you everytime you trip on some acid

Mr Welch's list.
337. Even if the rules allow it, I cannot control 20,000 pigeons and use them as flying piranha.

Also, whatever happened to plasma grenades? And why are Darklight grenades not AV instead of AI?

FuelDrop wrote:

Also, whatever happened to plasma grenades? And why are Darklight grenades not AV instead of AI?

Kabalites decided to exchange them for little jugs of rhum that they can hand at their belts. Because a realspace raid isn't a realspace raid if you're not stinking of alcohol.

You would think that DE would use poison grenades for their assault grenades of choice: Grenade D6, No AP, 1 damage and wounding on 4+, with the special rule that the weapon ignores cover bonuses to saves.

I'm so tired of wounding T3 on 4+ that i would rather have the S4, AP-1 grenades. If Kabs could have them... except they do... except they don't...

Mppqlmd wrote:

I'm so tired of wounding T3 on 4+ that i would rather have the S4, AP-1 grenades. If Kabs could have them... except they do... except they don't...

I completely agree, I just thought that logically if we didn't have plasma grenades we would use poison because we use it for every other damn thing.

I am still of the opinion that Darklight grenades would be better served as being our Krak Grenade equivelent, keeping it as the vehicle killing awesomeness that it has always been. Effectively a Blaster with an 8" range.

Then let us either keep plasma grenades or use monoscythe grenades or Shattershard grenades or implosion grenades or something.

I would like to have trueborn be able to have access to more stuff. They are the rich kids and should have access to best weapons and equipment i.e. Shard carbines, heat lances, haywire blasters etc, as well as ghost plate armor.

WS0007 wrote:

I would like to have trueborn be able to have access to more stuff. They are the rich kids and should have access to best weapons and equipment i.e. Shard carbines, heat lances, haywire blasters etc, as well as ghost plate armor.

MADNESS! Pure Madness I say! They clearly have far too many options!

WS0007 wrote:

I would like to have trueborn be able to have access to more stuff. They are the rich kids and should have access to best weapons and equipment i.e. Shard carbines, heat lances, haywire blasters etc, as well as ghost plate armor.

Rather Bloodbrides get the trueborn treatment and let them have 4 wych weapons instead of 1 per 5......

amishprn86 wrote:

WS0007 wrote:

I would like to have trueborn be able to have access to more stuff. They are the rich kids and should have access to best weapons and equipment i.e. Shard carbines, heat lances, haywire blasters etc, as well as ghost plate armor.

Rather Bloodbrides get the trueborn treatment and let them have 4 wych weapons instead of 1 per 5......

For Bloodbrides I agree that they should get 4 wych weapons but I would take them a step further and allow Bloodbrides the ability to dodge pistols in melee. I had thought about allowing all wyhces that ability but I think that should fall to bloodbrides. Think of them as the top 2% of their class.
From a game design standpoint you don't want to make them the same as your harlies but just better in a different way.

WS0007 wrote:

amishprn86 wrote:

WS0007 wrote:

I would like to have trueborn be able to have access to more stuff. They are the rich kids and should have access to best weapons and equipment i.e. Shard carbines, heat lances, haywire blasters etc, as well as ghost plate armor.

Rather Bloodbrides get the trueborn treatment and let them have 4 wych weapons instead of 1 per 5......

For Bloodbrides I agree that they should get 4 wych weapons but I would take them a step further and allow Bloodbrides the ability to dodge pistols in melee. I had thought about allowing all wyhces that ability but I think that should fall to bloodbrides. Think of them as the top 2% of their class.
From a game design standpoint you don't want to make them the same as your harlies but just better in a different way.

Really, all wyches should get that ability, as well as the ability to dodge overwatch. Bloodbrides should be the equivalent of trueborn to warriors - higher leadership, more attacks, and the ability to take more special weapons. Giving good dodge abilities to all wyches regarding all aspects of close combat would be appropriate and certainly not OP.

Why should all wyches get the ability?

For over-watch I would do this, if your Hekatrix has a phantasm grenade launcher then it would allow you to roll your dodge save on over-watch. Phantasm Grenade Launchers are canisters which contain a powerful nerve gas, capable of plunging the victim into a fit of horrific nightmares and delusions which I could not think of a better way to represent that in game terms then to allow a dodge save. If I am a guardsman firing over-watch at some crazy wyches while having delusions and waking nightmares it would be blind luck if my shot did any crippling damage to a wyche

Wyches should be the apex melee fighter, able to do superhuman feats in close combat, they should be something like Christian Bale in Equilibrium or Keanu in John Wick, you cannot shoot a wych in CC, they are too fast.
I mean, real life martial artist have the ability to stay out of a gun fire line up close.

I think it should work a bit more like this ... Lelith: Quick silver Dodge - 2++ (I mean for god sakes shes miles above an archon in skill so therefore should have a similar save ... Yes I understand the archon 2++ is a piece of wargear but still) ... Succubus: lightning dodge 3++, Bloodbrides: Swift dodge 4++, Wych: dodge 5++... So a dodge all the time and not just in close combat and the higher up the ranks you get the better, this would give Bloodbrides an advantage over wyches other than just a measly +1 attack.