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Dogmar Sybarite
Posts : 397 Join date : 2011-11-22 Location : Germany
| Subject: Returning player looking for guidance in 1k points Wed May 22 2019, 16:24 | |
| Hello fellow True Kin,
after years of not playing 40k for different reasons (the catastrophic rule set and update policy being one of them) my local club has started to pick 40k up again. I just returned from 6 months abroad and thus, am late to the party.
I will play some warm-up games at 1k points on Friday, which will probably go up to 1,5k+ in the following weeks.
Model-wise I have multiples of everything except coven stuff and RWJFs (only 1 Talos, 1 Flyer), so go nuts with suggestions. From my first look at the "new" rules, I think going Kabal with 3 Dissie Ravagers is probably a solid start.
Cheers, Dogmar | |
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amishprn86 Archon
Posts : 4436 Join date : 2014-10-04 Location : Ohio
| Subject: Re: Returning player looking for guidance in 1k points Wed May 22 2019, 20:06 | |
| You for sure want to start with a couple or 3 Ravagers with Dis Cannons.
After that play what you want, if you like Coven get more, if you like the Kabal vehicle feel get RWJF's. | |
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Dogmar Sybarite
Posts : 397 Join date : 2011-11-22 Location : Germany
| Subject: Re: Returning player looking for guidance in 1k points Thu May 23 2019, 15:27 | |
| Ok here's my list. Already looks pretty min-maxed, but with the new detachment restrictions of no mixing things, I found it hard to get a cult element like a unit of bikes into my 1k points.
Archon -96pts Labyrinthine Cunning, Writ of the Living Muse, Huskblade, PGL, Blaster
Archon -96pts Huskblade, PGL, Blaster
2x5 Kabalite Warriors, Blaster -47pts 1x10 Kabalite Warriors, 2x Blaster -94pts
2x Raider, Dissie -80pts 1x Raider, DL -85pts
3x Ravager, 3xDissies -125
1000pts on the nose.
Any comments, criticism, maybe ideas how to make the list a little more diverse even if it ends up less competetive. It's about getting back into the game, so a nice balanced list might be good for starters.
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Gizamaluke Sybarite
Posts : 398 Join date : 2013-10-28
| Subject: Re: Returning player looking for guidance in 1k points Thu May 23 2019, 15:56 | |
| A cult detachment of 9 bikes n Succubus would set you back 221pts base so you might consider dropping the Kabal down to a spearhead and taking a batallion of wyches in Raiders instead if you're keen to get them in. Could also drop a lot of the wargear down to Venomblade and Splinter pistol on the labrynthine archon since he will be sat back with the raiders saving some points youd only be able to fit one raider in though I think | |
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Gizamaluke Sybarite
Posts : 398 Join date : 2013-10-28
| Subject: Re: Returning player looking for guidance in 1k points Thu May 23 2019, 16:03 | |
| Quickly knocked this up in battlescribe as a base;
Batallion 1 Archon labrynthine venom blade pistol writ Archon
3×5 kabalites
2 ravagers
2 raiders
Batallion 2
2 Succubus
3×5 wych
6 Reaver jetbikes
Comes to 982pts, so youd be lacking a bit of anti tank but have enough cp to get 2 WL traits and 3 Relics easily, and still have cp for everything else.
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Dogmar Sybarite
Posts : 397 Join date : 2011-11-22 Location : Germany
| Subject: Re: Returning player looking for guidance in 1k points Fri May 24 2019, 10:15 | |
| Thanks for the suggestions,
I made a second list, similar to the one GIzamaluke suggested, however I didn't like the lack of wargear options in that one so I ended up with a battalion and a patrol. The list is as follows:
Black Heart Battalion:
Archon-96 Huskblade, PGL, Warlord (Cunning), Writ of the Living Muse
Archon-79 Huskblade, PGL, Splinter Pistol
3x5 Kabalite Warriors, Blaster -47 each
2x Raider, Dissies -80 each 1x Venom, stock -65
2x Ravager, all Dissies -125 each
Red Grief Patrol
Succubus, Blood Glaive, Quicksilver, Splinter Pistol -50
5 Wyches, Agonizer -44
6 Reavers, stock -114
Total 999pts
Any suggestions? I went with Red Grief to help out the Reavers with a potential first turn charge. Succubus and 2nd Archon will ride with Wyches in one of the Raiders, Kabalites take Venom and Second Raider. The Succubus should be great to take out HQs with a 3++ in melee, the non-WL Archon can help. Wyches are Agonizer delivery.
In firepower I'm a little light on anti-Infantry, but I have 8 multi-purpose Dissies so unless I face 120 Boyz I should be fine. What do you think?
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Greshym Slave
Posts : 17 Join date : 2015-01-06 Location : Preston
| Subject: Re: Returning player looking for guidance in 1k points Tue Jul 02 2019, 01:27 | |
| Same situation myself actually, been out for a long time and looking at returning. Started with a 2k list and looking at what 1k list I can make from the units that go in to the 2k list. So far I’ve got;
Battalion Detachment +5CP Kabal of the Black Heart HQ Archon: Blaster, Huskblade, Labyrinthine Cunning, Warlord (Archon) Writ of the Living Muse Archon: Blaster, Huskblade Troops 5x Kabalite Warrior: Blaster 5x Kabalite Warrior: Blaster 5x Kabalite Warrior: Blaster Heavy Support 3x Ravager: 3xDisintegrator cannons Dedicated Transport 2x Raider: Disintegrator cannon Venom: Splinter Cannon, Twin splinter rifle
Total- 927pts
Just debating what I could do with the remaining points. | |
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Serpent Fly Hellion
Posts : 90 Join date : 2019-03-03
| Subject: Re: Returning player looking for guidance in 1k points Wed Jul 03 2019, 09:14 | |
| Just remember the rule of 2 for 1000pts Greshym. You will have to drop that 3rd Ravager. | |
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Greshym Slave
Posts : 17 Join date : 2015-01-06 Location : Preston
| Subject: Re: Returning player looking for guidance in 1k points Thu Jul 04 2019, 01:59 | |
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Serpent Fly Hellion
Posts : 90 Join date : 2019-03-03
| Subject: Re: Returning player looking for guidance in 1k points Thu Jul 04 2019, 12:21 | |
| There is a chart they added to the BRB saying how many detachments and duplicates you can have at different points values. At 1000pts it's up to 2 detachments and no more than 2 of any datasheet. (Troops and transports don't have this limit) | |
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amishprn86 Archon
Posts : 4436 Join date : 2014-10-04 Location : Ohio
| Subject: Re: Returning player looking for guidance in 1k points Thu Jul 04 2019, 13:49 | |
| - Greshym wrote:
- Rule of 2?
It in this, page 15 https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/warhammer_40000_rulebook_en.pdf | |
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Greshym Slave
Posts : 17 Join date : 2015-01-06 Location : Preston
| Subject: Re: Returning player looking for guidance in 1k points Thu Jul 04 2019, 14:59 | |
| Fair, been out for ages so rules will slip by. Thanks for the heads up | |
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