Christmas Box Set

Incubi Posts : 1921 Join date : 2018-04-02

You're all wrong.

The set will actually contain:
4 Archons (with a suggestion that you could convert the 4th to a Dracon)
5 complete Courts of the Archon (plus a free Ur-Ghul!)
20 Warriors with brand new Kabalite sprues (They're exactly like the old ones but with all the special and heavy weapons removed. Fire up those Power Swords, lads!)
1 Starweaver (Because GW confused it with the Venom)
3 Clawed Fiends (Beastmaster not included)
A Talos/Cronos kit (minus the Talos parts)
140 Hellions

Incubi Posts : 1846 Join date : 2016-08-29

It's just going to be an entire box of Hellions. Like 30 Hellion kits all in one box.

Incubi Posts : 1505 Join date : 2017-09-12

A slight repackage of Gangs of Commorragh to get sold as a Cult Outrider could feasibly be what the box contains...

Sybarite Posts : 307 Join date : 2012-12-23

All they have to do is drop the point cost to 10, wait for all the Hellions to fly off the shelf and correct it again to 12. No need to trick your audience into buying mediocre models with terrible stats.

Wych Posts : 630 Join date : 2018-03-04 Location : maybe

TeenageAngst wrote:: It's just going to be an entire box of Hellions. Like 30 Hellion kits all in one box.

and one succubus plus venom to form a legal detachment

Hekatrix Posts : 1157 Join date : 2015-12-06

Burnage wrote:: A slight repackage of Gangs of Commorragh to get sold as a Cult Outrider could feasibly be what the box contains...

Man I hope not. That was a great kit and I love reavers, but between that kit and reavers being in both the old and new start collecting box, I have a lot and it's already easy to get more.

I'm just glad the rumors indicate we are getting a box, I guess we'll see for sure in December.

Incubi Posts : 1846 Join date : 2016-08-29

AzraeI wrote:

TeenageAngst wrote:: It's just going to be an entire box of Hellions. Like 30 Hellion kits all in one box.

and one succubus plus venom to form a legal detachment

20 Hellions, 10 Scourge, an Archon, and a Raider.

Subject: Re: Christmas Box Set Sun Oct 27 2019, 07:15

TeenageAngst wrote:

AzraeI wrote:

TeenageAngst wrote:: It's just going to be an entire box of Hellions. Like 30 Hellion kits all in one box.

and one succubus plus venom to form a legal detachment

20 Hellions, 10 Scourge, an Archon, and a Raider.

Not to forget a manual on why you should start playing space marines

Sybarite Posts : 307 Join date : 2012-12-23

This thread hits close to home.

Hellion Posts : 90 Join date : 2019-03-03

I do like the gangs if Commorragh repackaged as an outrider detachment. Just add a succubus on foot, no transport. Because fluff wise and game balance it just makes more sense she runs on foot behind them.

1 succubus
6 reavers
10 hellions
£180

Hekatrix Posts : 1157 Join date : 2015-12-06

I know it's not gonna happen, but boy that bothers me so much. Just give us a skyboard/jetbike option for at least the succubus.

Sybarite Posts : 307 Join date : 2012-12-23

Or pretty much anything as a 2nd HQ option in each subfaction.

Hellion Posts : 88 Join date : 2018-02-21

False Son wrote:: Or pretty much anything as a 2nd HQ option in each subfaction.

Hum...
By chance, a Winged Archon, a flying Succubus, and a Talos/Cronos HQ. Twisted Evil

We can always dream... santa

Kabalite Warrior Posts : 180 Join date : 2016-02-18

Like every single other faction in the game - for the love of all that's holy - have a named HQ that's risen from the basic troop ranks. Or a generic. Seriously.
We have a named Incubi, Succubi, and Haemy. Now give us a named HQ or generic (my preference) for any of these: Scourge, Hellion, Reaver, Kabalite (named since we have the Archon, I guess).

If we have to be fully segregated in our list building to one of three detachment types, bolster them up with at least two options per category. OMG.

Wych Posts : 630 Join date : 2018-03-04 Location : maybe

i really hate that we have an archon in the fluff that was a reaver and we still get nothing

Hellion Posts : 88 Join date : 2018-02-21

I'm not sure that GW designers want use drukhari fluff.

For example In the Path of Renegade Novel we are a Scourge Archon.
Or in Lukas the Trickster, were are Malys and a Lhamean lead her own detachments.

Incubi Posts : 1505 Join date : 2017-09-12

Darklord wrote:: I'm not sure that GW designers want use drukhari fluff.

For example In the Path of Renegade Novel we are a Scourge Archon.
Or in Lukas the Trickster, were are Malys and a Lhamean lead her own detachments.

Yeah, Eldar fluff has a very tenuous connection to tabletop at this point.

Our most important characters in the fluff are Vect, Malys, Duke Sliscus, possibly Baron Sathonyx. Harlequins have Sylandri Veilwalker. Lelith is a key player in the Ynnari.

Exodites and Corsairs make recurring appearances in Phoenix Rising, as do Trueborn.

None of these are actually current units in game.

Incubi Posts : 1921 Join date : 2018-04-02

Given some of the fluff pieces on WarhammerCommunity, it really wouldn't surprise me if GW have literally forgotten that most of our characters are gone and that Corsairs don't even exist as an army anymore.

Sybarite Posts : 307 Join date : 2012-12-23

Darklord wrote:

False Son wrote:: Or pretty much anything as a 2nd HQ option in each subfaction.

Hum...
By chance, a Winged Archon, a flying Succubus, and a Talos/Cronos HQ. Twisted Evil

We can always dream... santa

Scourge HQ
Beastmaster (Beastlord) HQ
Succubus Exalted Champion type (reroll to wound aura)
Vehicle Fixer (seriously, who makes and maintains our vehicles?)
Haemonculus assistant... like an Igor or something

There's so many ideas, so many possibilities for beasts ideas (no shooting beasts?) and yet we get telegraphed unit entries intended to meet the detachment requirements and nothing else.

Wych Posts : 744 Join date : 2017-06-03

False Son wrote:: There's so many ideas, so many possibilities for beasts ideas (no shooting beasts?) and yet we get telegraphed unit entries intended to meet the detachment requirements and nothing else.

But....but they don't meet detachment requirements Crying or Very sad

They're dead weight on a vanguard, and impossible to fit in a brigade (not that we should ever take brigades).

Hellion Posts : 88 Join date : 2018-02-21

But it is not impossible for us to use Brigade detachment.
In fact only Kabal or Coven could use it, but with 6 identical Troup Roles, 3 identical Fast attack and Heavy support Roles :
Kabales : 2 Archons, 1 Drazhar, 1 Incubi, 2 Mandrake, 6 K. warriors, 3 Scourges and 3 Ravagers.
Covens : 2 Haemoculus, 1 Urien, 2 Grotesques, 1 Mandrakes, 6 Wraks, 3 Scourges, 2 Talos and 1 Cronos.
Cults couldn't use it because they have no Heavy support.

Or we'll abandon obsessions bonus...Is it conceivable?

Even if the current subfaction system is a good vision of drukhari divided society, in pratice it
split our possibilities in regard to other factions.
Sometimes I think our codex is an unfinished prototype.

Hellion Posts : 90 Join date : 2019-03-03

It all comes down to the double standard of no rules without a model (except when they dont need a model). No model for archon with blaster, no rules. No model for archon with blast pistol, rules are okay. I think it doesn't help that our range if models are amazingly easy to convert and kit bash. Let's say they release a winged archon. How many people would just kit bash them from a scourge kit? I know I would. As such what insensitive financially is there for GW making a winged archon? I mean appart from game balance.

Incubi Posts : 1921 Join date : 2018-04-02

Serpent Fly wrote:: It all comes down to the double standard of no rules without a model (except when they dont need a model). No model for archon with blaster, no rules. No model for archon with blast pistol, rules are okay. I think it doesn't help that our range if models are amazingly easy to convert and kit bash. Let's say they release a winged archon. How many people would just kit bash them from a scourge kit? I know I would. As such what insensitive financially is there for GW making a winged archon? I mean appart from game balance.

But those people would still be buying Scourge kits, so GW would still be benefiting even if it wasn't always directly from sales of the winged Archon model.

Hell, GW could just do exactly what they did with the GK Grand Master Dreadknight and release rules for a winged Archon, alongside a conversion guide for making one out of Scourge parts.

They could even just give us Relic Scourge Wings, since Relics never need to be represented.

Really, they have a ton of precedents and options for giving us winged Archons without ever needing to release new kits.

Hellion Posts : 88 Join date : 2018-02-21

And you forget all heamoculus weapons options that we can't easely put on plastic model. scratch

There are many little things that could be imagined to increase our choice.
For example, I'll dream of Winged Archon that make Scourges a Kabal unit (Reroll 1 on hit rolls, flying 17").

But at present all games designers Neurons are used for Primaris. Rolling Eyes

...until our next codex. 8.2? 9.0?

Soulless Samurai wrote:: Hell, GW could just do exactly what they did with the GK Grand Master Dreadknight and release rules for a winged Archon, alongside a conversion guide for making one out of Scourge parts.

Just now I imagine a conversion guide to make a Cult HQ vehicule with Succubus and Venom like Necron Command Barge.

Wych Posts : 630 Join date : 2018-03-04 Location : maybe

False Son wrote:: (seriously, who makes and maintains our vehicles?)

slaves, mostly

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