Phoenix Rising FAQ

https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/7f2bbe02.pdf

Things of note:

Experimental Creations is now melee weapons, so no longer works on venoms.
Venoms I think just take Master of Mutagens instead, which some people were already doing

Obsessive Collectors is now unit destroyed, not model. No more infinite regenerating wrack units :'(
Not sure what to replace this with, but it was clearly meant to be per unit and not per model.

Drazhar's second attack sequence still counts as charging, so can be done before non-chargers.
Not a big update, but does allow for more finicky pile-in and consolidate options in the fight phase if you want units activated in a particular order.

All are fine honestly. The heal D3 per model was way to strong (Did it with 6 Talos one game, really strong), and EC i stopped using b.c MoM was just better for me as i started to take Raiders (5 raiders 6 venoms) and the Venoms was dedicated to non vehicles most the time.

Drazhar on the other hand, i don't remember, but i think Berzerkers was ruled the other way, hmm will have to look into that.

very nice cant wait for CA to nerf our best units to oblivion so that i have zero chances vs marines instead of 10%... bring it on

Not super happy about most of these changes, but Focus Will is a big deal for Craftworlders. Combined with Children of Prophecy and Seer Council, their powers are now super reliable.

I'm pleased that Test of Skill was unaffected.

The other changes were mostly expected.

Burnage wrote:

Not super happy about most of these changes, but Focus Will is a big deal for Craftworlders. Combined with Children of Prophecy and Seer Council, their powers are now super reliable.

Honestly a Warlock unit now is OP AF if you keep it protected turn one or go first. As soon as i saw the book i thought about it first. Dont need SS anymore, so those 300pts i used for them will now go towards my council on bikes.

So its back to ptophets of flesh

DevilDoll wrote:

very nice cant wait for CA to nerf our best units to oblivion so that i have zero chances vs marines instead of 10%... bring it on

Maybe you are right that the chapter takes advantage of being a great nerf, I hope it is not because currently you can play and win against space marines despite its power up


I will have to test obsessive collectors tomorrow, until this faq was a good alternative added to dark technomancers to prophets of flesh. Now it will only be useful in very specific situations of finishing a unit.

Yeah, definitely back to prophets of flesh it seems. It's a shame, I was looking forward to trying out wrack spam.


Okay, completely unrelated to the discussion. Can I just comment on the profile picture there.

Sarcron wrote:

Okay, completely unrelated to the discussion. Can I just comment on the profile picture there.

My Jojo photo of Archont Dio ?

I believe that I will continue playing some more games with obsessive collectors and darktechomancers.

Do prophets of the flesh play again for the nerf to obsessive collectors or experimental creations? Dark technomancers believe that it follows a good alternative to prophets of the flesh but it really is even more so for flayed skull in venom spam lists, with the bonus of adding 3 squads of 1 talos for more anti tank.

Omg GW why you can't see your bugs?! So Dark Technomancers really makes you able to self wound more models in the same unit.
So you can split incoming damage between Talos. And we are now the only army that split wounds like 7th...
....oh well, I'll feel less dirty doing that now.

So they left that, Test of Skills on shooting too, Artists as before. Nice, we are lucky. Nothing unexpected here (except the bug up here).

Cool. So glad we got this garbage instead of the piles of Warlord Traits, Relics, Stratagems, new Psychic Powers etc. that every other faction is getting.

Soulless Samurai wrote:

Cool. So glad we got this garbage instead of the piles of Warlord Traits, Relics, Stratagems, new Psychic Powers etc. that every other faction is getting.

You forgot new units

dumpeal wrote:

Soulless Samurai wrote:

Cool. So glad we got this garbage instead of the piles of Warlord Traits, Relics, Stratagems, new Psychic Powers etc. that every other faction is getting.

You forgot new units

No, no, we got Incubi in plastic and also a plastic Klaivex wearing half a coral-reef (who calls himself Drazhar for some reason).

That's exactly the same as getting new units, right?

Again?....this is a FaQ post, Phoenix Rising is getting old. ..do we need to complain again?

Soulless Samurai wrote:

dumpeal wrote:

Soulless Samurai wrote:

Cool. So glad we got this garbage instead of the piles of Warlord Traits, Relics, Stratagems, new Psychic Powers etc. that every other faction is getting.

You forgot new units

No, no, we got Incubi in plastic and also a plastic Klaivex wearing half a coral-reef (who calls himself Drazhar for some reason).

That's exactly the same as getting new units, right?

You're right. Silly me.

Cerve wrote:

Again?....this is a FaQ post, Phoenix Rising is getting old. ..do we need to complain again?

Have you been to The Dark City? Whining is at least 60% of the posts on this forum.

sekac wrote:

Cerve wrote:

Again?....this is a FaQ post, Phoenix Rising is getting old. ..do we need to complain again?

Have you been to The Dark City? Whining is at least 60% of the posts on this forum.

Have you been to The Dark City  the internet? Whining is at least 60% of the posts of this *fandom

AzraeI wrote:

sekac wrote:

Cerve wrote:

Again?....this is a FaQ post, Phoenix Rising is getting old. ..do we need to complain again?

Have you been to The Dark City? Whining is at least 60% of the posts on this forum.

Have you been to The Dark City  the internet? Whining is at least 60% of the posts of this *fandom

No, no, you're absolutely correct.
But TheDarkCity is 60% more whining. So, like, 90% of all DC posts. If it were a drinking game where we all took a slug, we'd all be dead before we scrolled through an entire thread.

I'm sorry, do you mean that some of you think this forum isn't a drinking game?

nerdelemental wrote:

AzraeI wrote:

sekac wrote:

Cerve wrote:

Again?....this is a FaQ post, Phoenix Rising is getting old. ..do we need to complain again?

Have you been to The Dark City? Whining is at least 60% of the posts on this forum.

Have you been to The Dark City  the internet? Whining is at least 60% of the posts of this *fandom

No, no, you're absolutely correct.
But TheDarkCity is 60% more whining. So, like, 90% of all DC posts. If it were a drinking game where we all took a slug, we'd all be dead before we scrolled through an entire thread.

We all chose the race that litterally feed on pain and despair. What did you expect?