2000 Point Sliscus List

I'm pretty new to 40k, so I was wondering if I could get some feedback.
And, yes, I desperately want that Voidraven. I'm not scrapping it.

Duke Sliscus the Serpent
150

3 Haemonculi
3 Hexrifles
Webway portal
130
Venom
Night Shields
Chain snares
Splinter cannon
80

ELITES

DUKE’S RETINUE
9 Kabalite Trueborn
7 Shardcarbines
2 Splinter cannons
9 Haywires
181
-Raider "Concupiscence"
Chain-snares
Envenomed blades
Shock prow
Night shields
Flickerfield
95

TROOPS

10 Wyches
Razorflails
Shardnet and Impaler
10 Haywire grenades
Hekatrix "Mileena"
Agoniser
190
-Raider "Possession"
Chain-snares
Night shields
Flickerfield
85


10 Kabalite Warriors
Dark lance
Blaster
Sybarite "Thel"
140
-Raider "Misery"
Chain-snares
Splinter racks
Night shields
Flickerfield
95

10 Wyches
Razorflails
Shardnet and Impaler
10 Haywire grenades
Hekatrix "Daria"
Agoniser
190

FAST ATTACK

9 Reavers
3 Cluster caltrops
3 Heat lances
Arena Champion
Agoniser
324

HEAVY SUPPORT

Voidraven Bomber "A Darkness Triumphant"
4 Shatterfield missiles
Night shield
Flickerfield
205

Talos Pain Engine "Gabriel"
Chain flails
Additional CCW
Twin-linked heat lance
135

Due to my obsession with symmetry, I kinda want a second Voidraven, but I really can't fit it in.
So yeah, I'm kinda thinking I'd start everything in Raiders, and then Webway in everything that isn't in a Raider. Please rip it apart.

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3 Haemonculi
3 Hexrifles
Webway portal
130
Venom
Night Shields
Chain snares
Splinter cannon
80

Don't think Hems can buy their own Venoms. Is this supposed to go with something else?

Otherwise, I'm seeing a lot of upgrades on units that aren't strictly necessary and might end up not being used, like the Dark Lance on the warrior squad. You might want to cut some of that stuff to get more bodies on the field.

Father Dagon wrote:

I'm pretty new to 40k, so I was wondering if I could get some feedback.
And, yes, I desperately want that Voidraven. I'm not scrapping it.

Duke Sliscus the Serpent
150

3 Haemonculi
3 Hexrifles
Webway portal
130 Way off on points 3 haemonculi with hexrifles and 1 WWP is 230pts also where do they go?
Venom
Night Shields
Chain snares
Splinter cannon
80
They can't take thier own transport

ELITES

DUKE’S RETINUE
9 Kabalite Trueborn
7 Shardcarbines
2 Splinter cannons
9 Haywires
181
-Raider "Concupiscence"
Chain-snares
Envenomed blades
Shock prow
Night shields
Flickerfield
95
Envenomed blades could be dropped here without you really noticing it

TROOPS

10 Wyches
Razorflails
Shardnet and Impaler
10 Haywire grenades
Hekatrix "Mileena"
Agoniser
190 Fine but here's where we are gonna make some cuts to get points
-Raider "Possession"
Chain-snares
Night shields
Flickerfield
85 In this case I'd swap snares for enhanced aether sails to get you into the fight


10 Kabalite Warriors
Dark lance
Blaster
Sybarite "Thel"
140 Another unit to trim, the DL is only useful if you sit still
-Raider "Misery"
Chain-snares
Splinter racks
Night shields
Flickerfield
95

10 Wyches
Razorflails
Shardnet and Impaler
10 Haywire grenades
Hekatrix "Daria"
Agoniser
190
Coming out of the webway I take it?

FAST ATTACK

9 Reavers
3 Cluster caltrops
3 Heat lances
Arena Champion
Agoniser
324
Ouch really exensive and fragile unit

HEAVY SUPPORT

Voidraven Bomber "A Darkness Triumphant"
4 Shatterfield missiles
Night shield
Flickerfield
205
Expensive but I'll try to get a second in for you

Talos Pain Engine "Gabriel"
Chain flails
Additional CCW
Twin-linked heat lance
135
Never thought much to talos till I experienced one taking 6 killpoints from a marine army

Due to my obsession with symmetry, I kinda want a second Voidraven, but I really can't fit it in.
So yeah, I'm kinda thinking I'd start everything in Raiders, and then Webway in everything that isn't in a Raider. Please rip it apart.

My comments in red

OK lets get you that second voidraven, 1st lets address the illegal part of your list lets drop the venom and all but one haemonculi lets give him a hexrifle and a WWP cost 100pts saving us (from your pointings) 110pts. Next he needs somewhere to hang that can shoot forward to drop his portal we'll do this by droping some wyches from Mileenas Squad (love that you've named the unit leaders), lets drop 2 so they become 8 (keeping your symetry) and we have to lose 1 special weapon (your choice) this saves us 34pts (total 144pts). Next lets reduce the warrior squad down to 6 man (still keeping symetry!) and drop the Dark Lance 61pts (total 205pts woohoo new void raven). Lets not stop there Reavers lets split it down into 2 groups of 3 and lose the arena champ w/agoniser (you are dead if you get caught in cc with 9 or 3) we'll keep the cluster and heatlance in each group (though to be fair they are probably better with one or the other) this saves 128pts Mmmmm lets get you 5 wracks with a liquifier in a venom with twin splintercannons for 125pts done!

Hope that helps.

I agre other than, I don't think you need even one haemonculus, who does he go with?

Todo13 wrote:

I agre other than, I don't think you need even one haemonculus, who does he go with?

He has to be in to deliver the WWP (if you chose to lose the WWP you could use the points to buy the wych squad without transport a raider but it leaves the Talos hoofing it) he can travel with the wyches (unless your planning to turbo them first turn) wyches with FNP are pretty scary.

Hey, everyone. Thanks for the criticism. I didn't realize that putting an Haem in a transport alone was illegal. Live and learn, eh? I'll check that sort of thing in the future.

One question, though, what purpose do Wracks serve? I haven't been able to figure it out. Warriors: Long range. Wyches: Short range. Wracks: Profit?

Wracks are your tough troop choice and as such have a couple of things going for them 1) they are toughness 4 2)They start with a pain token and thus FNP 3)they have poisoned weapons 4) Access to haemonculus weapons like liquifier and hexrifle,

They lack ranged fire but due to thier toughness and FNP make a pretty good objective sitting unit/ speed bump. They can also give high toughness stuff a suprise in cc.

Updated list


2000 LIST (1880)

Duke Sliscus the Serpent
150

Haemonculus
Hexrifle
Webway portal
100

ELITES

DUKE’S GANG
9 Kabalite Trueborn
7 Shardcarbines
2 Splinter cannons
9 Haywires
181
-Raider
Chain-snares
Shock prow
Night shields
Flickerfield
90

TROOPS

HAEMONCULI’S GANG
9 Wyches
Shardnet and Impaler
9 Haywire grenades
Hekatrix
Agoniser
168
-Raider
Chain-snares
Night shields
Flickerfield
85


10 Kabalite Warriors
Blaster
Sybarite
115

-Raider
Chain-snares
Splinter racks
Night shields
Flickerfield
95

10 Wyches
Razorflails
Shardnet and Impaler
10 Haywire grenades
Hekatrix
Agoniser
190

5 Wracks
Liquifier
60
-Venom
-Splinter cannon
-Chain-snares
-Night shields
80

FAST ATTACK

6 Reavers
2 Cluster caltrops
2 Heat lances
Arena Champion
Agoniser
226

HEAVY SUPPORT

Voidraven Bomber
4 Shatterfield missiles
Night shield
Flickerfield
205

Talos Pain Engine
Chain flails
Additional CCW
Twin-linked heat lance
135


120 points left.
What.
Should.
I.
Spend it on.

Maybe a Cronos?

Sorry to doublepost, but come on people, help me out. I'm thinking something in fast attack or maybe a Cronos. Are beasts any good?

Strip anything which isn't "Flickerfields" from all of your vehicles. It's all superfluous.

Drop the Voidraven for a Razorwing. Then, buy another Razorwing.

Hell, if it were me (not saying you should, only that I would), I'd drop the Talos and buy a 3rd Razorwing, in order to instantly counter Space Wolf and Ork players who think they're smart when they park their cheap-o AT backfield squads like Lootas and Longfangs on some rock in their deployment zone, and get ready to go to town on our Raiders.

4 S6 blasts and some Darklances sends a squad packing. 3 means they no longer have fire support, period. Sure, a Talos chews stuff up in melee, but who cares? Why get your hands dirty? Just shoot people until they don't exist anymore. That's my philosophy.

Using The Strange Dudes advice and some minor tweaks from myself. Your list could look like this

HQ 250

Duke Sliscus the Serpent
150

Haemonculi
Hexrifles
Webway portal
100

ELITES 248

DUKE’S RETINUE
9 Kabalite Trueborn
9 Shardcarbines
153
-Raider "Concupiscence"
Shock prow
Night shields
Flickerfield
Splinter Racks
95

TROOPS 793

5 Wracks
Liquifier Gun
60
Venom
Shuriken Cannon
65

5 Wracks
Liquifier Gun
60
Venom
Shuriken Cannon
65

9 Wyches
Shardnet and Impaler
9 Haywire grenades
Hekatrix "Mileena"
Agoniser
148
-Raider "Possession"
Flickerfield
70

5 Kabalite Warriors
Blaster
Sybarite "Thel"
Blast Pistol
85
-Raider "Misery"
Flickerfield
70

10 Wyches
Razorflails
Shardnet and Impaler
10 Haywire grenades
Hekatrix "Daria"
Agoniser
170

FAST ATTACK 164

3 Reavers
Heat Lance
78

3 Reavers
Cluster
86


HEAVY SUPPORT 545

Voidraven Bomber "A Darkness Triumphant"
4 Shatterfield missiles
Night shield
Flickerfield
205

Voidraven Bomber "A Triumphant Darkness" (See what I did thar!)
4 Shatterfield missiles
Night shield
Flickerfield
205

Talos Pain Engine "Gabriel"
Chain flails
Additional CCW
Twin-linked heat lance
135

2000 Total

I personally don't like Reavers, but I included 3 squads because you seem to want to keep them in. Just keep turbo boosting them 36" every turn and land those str6 shots.

I ditched the Splintercannons on the Trueborn since its just giving them 1 extra shot per guy if you keep moving them (which you should) Splinter Racks are only helpful if you only moved your raider 6" but hey it could happen.

I really appreciate all the help, thanks. I'm working all this input in (at my discretion, of course). I'll throw up my new list when I'm through with it.

Anyway, yeah, my second Voidraven is going to be called "A Light Extinguished."

If anyone else has any thoughts, they are welcome to post.