2000 Reaver Tourny List!

So...I'm making my way back to the world of 40k after a long hiatus. DE seems to play the way I've always liked...Alpha Striking and hitting fast and relentless. I REALLY like jetbikes, so I would like to keep them in if all possible, but my need to win might overwrite that eventually


In any case, PLEASE tear this list apart. Criticize and suggest to your hearts content!

FAST ATTACK:
6 Reavers: 156
Heat Lance
6 Reavers: 156
Heat Lance
TOTAL: 312

HQ:
Succubus - 85
Agoniser
TOTAL: 85

ELITES:
4 Trueborn - 173
4 Blasters, Venom, Additional Splinter Cannon
4 Trueborn - 173
4 Blasters, Venom, Additional Splinter Cannon
TOTAL: 346

TROOPS:
9 Wyches - 210
Shardnet&Impaler, Hekatrix, Agoniser, PGL, Raider, Flickerfield, Disintegrator Cannon
5 Warriors - 125
Blaster, Venom, Additional Splinter Cannon
5 Warriors - 125
Blaster, Venom, Additional Splinter Cannon
5 Warriors - 125
Blaster, Venom, Additional Splinter Cannon
5 Warriors - 125
Blaster, Venom, Additional Splinter Cannon
10 Warriors - 175
Blaster, Raider, Flickerfield, Disintegrator Cannon
TOTAL: 885

HEAVY SUPPORT
Ravager - 115
Flickerfields
Ravager - 115
Flickerfields
Ravager - 115
Flickerfields
TOTAL: 345

GRAND TOTAL: 1973

27 points left over. Not entirely certain what to do with them yet.

Welcome to the forum Hebro =]

I would keep the Dark Lances on the Raiders, the others will tell you from their experiences that you need them due to us lacking on anti-tank.

The PGL on the Wych unit is screwy since Wyches come with Assault Grenades anyway. But it would be a good idea to give your Wyches the Haywire Grenades since it combined with the Shardnet makes them great against Dreadnaughts and also can damage tanks.

Assuming you take the Haywire Grenades on the Wyches, the Succubus should get them as well.

Finally, if you want your 10 man Kabalite squad to keep a 36" range anti-infantry weapon I would suggest adding a Splinter Cannon to that squad.

Hope this helps

With the leftover points and those saved from the PGL I'd get another 2 HL's for the reavers, might as well max out on the HL's. I'd also get the DL's backon the raiders, you have more than enough AI in the list already.
HG's on the wyches would also help.

Kenny, I think he has the max Heat Lances on there due to points cost per unit.

Thank you very much! Glad to be here
I do have maxed HL on the reavers

You really think I don't have enough AT? The folks at warseer said I had TOO MUCH AT lolol

My 2 pain tokens worth: I agree with the others about changing ur dissies back to lances. With all those venoms you will have plenty of AI. Everything else looks great. I hope to get so batreps from ya. I haven't really used reavers yet but they def look fun!

You have with your list 22 Darklight shot max per turn, while having 64 Poison shots max per turn (and thats BEFORE rapid firing the Warrior's Splinter Rifles). Dissies do a similar job to our Splinter fire by generally going after Infantry, though Dissies are good Terminator hunters.

The Dark Lances are generally more useful, and if there isn't any AV models remaining on the board they can shoot Infantry, Strength 8 does insta-kill Toughness 4 or less unless they have Eternal Warrior and with AP 2 ignores Armour Saves.

Thank you guys so much for your input It's very nice getting quick, intelligent replies.


What lists do you think I'll run into problems with? any other criticisms?

Honestly, I wouldn't have much clue on the lists you'd have problems with, I haven't played a game yet! All my advice as been based on what I know from reading the codex, other members gaming experience (via the Tatics, Army Lists and Realspace Raids sections) and theory.

You have 26 AT weapons on 12 platforms at 2000 points. If anybody told you that was too much then I would politely suggest they are playing in a mech starved environment, either that or they don't know what they are talking about. Was this God of Random by any chance?

My tournament list has something like 32 darklight shots on 17 platforms at 1750 points, last year it was just over 20 on 13 platforms and it struggled to crack armour. IMO you can never have too much AT.

It actually was God of Random actually.... Go figure.

So, from a competitive standpoint, am I wayy too low on AT?

I've been trying to figure out how to fit in more AT shots into the list. Other then switching those two DLs back (which I'm doing) not sure how...

Though, I still have 37 pts left over.

I guess...19 pts after i slap heywires on the wyches

Here are a couple of changes to think about.
Put your Blasterborn in raiders with lances and change your disintegrator raiders to lances. You now have 30 AT weapons on 16 platforms.
Drop a reaver squad and find 12 points from somewhere to add in another blasterborn squad in a raider. You now have 33 AT weapons on 18 platforms.

The importance of what may seem to be overkill is the simple fact that darklight isn't actually that good. 3 ravagers will, on an AV 12 hull only get to roll on the damage table 3 times and 1 of those will stastitically be a glance. So you could suppress that tank with 1 ravager or it may take all 3, thats why it's important to spread your darklight around as many platforms as possible. Gives you the opportunity to target more of the enemy.

Thanks Kenny. I really appreciate the feedback!