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PostSubject: 6th ed advice   6th ed advice I_icon_minitimeSun Jul 29 2012, 02:01

Greetings Commoroghites! My current DE colleciton's still somewhat limited, so am looking for advice on what a good 1500-1750 pt list would be with the following

1 Archon- variable weaponry, have enough bits for about anything
1 Haemonculus- see above
1 Duke Slicus conversion
1 Drazhar

5 Incubi +converted Klaivex w/demi klaives
9 Trueborn- 5 shardcarbines, 2 blasters, 2 splinter cannons
8 Wracks (converted) plus a converted Acothyst with electrocorrosive whip

19 Warriors- 1 blaster, 1 dark lance +sybarite w/agoniser and blast pistol
18 Wyches- 4 hydra gauntlets w 2 Hekatrixes w/phantasm grenade launchers, blast pistols, and agonisers

3 Raiders w/dark lances
1 Ravager w/3 disintigrator cannons

Thanks in advance
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PostSubject: Re: 6th ed advice   6th ed advice I_icon_minitimeSun Jul 29 2012, 16:35

well, there are a few type of lists:
1) Sliscus' pirates - shooty
2) Incubi/BB heavy - assault
3) Coven
4) Speedjunkies - reavers and the like
5) Balanced - assault and shooting
6) Mixed coven and kabal - assault and shooting
7) Barons beasts

whats yo flavour? Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: 6th ed advice   6th ed advice I_icon_minitimeMon Jul 30 2012, 02:06

I've used more or less #5 so far, typically a cc archon with the incubi, and 2 squads of wyches in raiders, with the 20 strong unit of warriors coming through the portal, but might shift to a more shooty list now that I've seen how much nastiness Slicus and a kitted out unit of trueborn can do.

Sliscus
9 Trueborn- 5 shardcarbines, 2 blasters, 2 splinter cannons, plasma grenades
Raider- dark lance, night shields

Archon- power axe, agoniser, shadow field, combat drugs, webway portal
Klaivex- demi klaives, onslaught
6 incubi
Raider- dark lance, night shields

Hekatrix- agoniser, blast pistol, haywire grenades, phantasm grenade launcher
9 Wyches- 2 x hydra gauntlets, haywire grenades
Raider- dark lance, night shields

Sybarite- blast pistol, agoniser
19 Warriors- blaster, dark lance
-pops out through the webway portal, usually much to the lament of my opponents

Ravager- 3 x disintigrator cannons, night shields

1496 points

I've got another unit of Wyches kitted out identically to the first that I put in over 1500, not sure what else I want to add next, either a Ravager or a Razorwing.

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PostSubject: Re: 6th ed advice   6th ed advice I_icon_minitimeMon Jul 30 2012, 08:10

Hmm...well, thats a way to go...but how about:
sliscus 150 pts
4trueborn with 2 cannons and 2 cara in a venom with dual cannons and night shield 153 pts
haem with liquifire 60 pts
8wyches1heka, spec weapon - id go with razor flails if you want to kill or shardnets if you want to survive - all hwg, heka venom blade and pgl. In a raider with grisley trophies and tormentor grenades. 213 pts
10 warriors 1 cannon in a raider with NS and racks 180 pts
10 warriors 1 cannon in a raider with NS and racks (2) 180 pts
5 wyches with hwg in a venom with dual cannons 125 pts
5 wyches with hwg in a venom with dual cannons (2) 125 pts
ravager with NS 115 pts
ravager with NS (2) 115 pts

you still have points to spare...84
you could bring a unite of wracks in a venom for 85 pts, thats only 1 pt above the 1.5k

but if you would like to go all out shooting, the you should go with cannon born in venoms, gunboats for warriors and some ravagers, though vehicles will be hard to crack then.
A sliscus born is 303pts
a normal cannon born is 170pts
a gunboat is 180 or 195 pts, depending on the blaster being added or not.
Ravager 115 as was before.
Sliscusborn
Cannon born
Cannon born
Gunboat
Gunboat
Gunboat
Ravager
Ravager
87 pts remain, wracks in venom Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: 6th ed advice   6th ed advice I_icon_minitimeMon Jul 30 2012, 17:21

For the uninitiated, ie me, what's a Sliscusborn, Cannonborn, and Gunboat? I'm assuming Cannon born are 2 splinter cannons with 3 bullet catchers, and Gunboats are max splinter rifles?

-edit- if it helps any, my local meta is mainly SMurfs, Tau, and IG with 1 nid player and 1 GK player that I'm aware of, and 1 other DE, haven't played against him yet, should be interesting when I do
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PostSubject: Re: 6th ed advice   6th ed advice I_icon_minitimeMon Jul 30 2012, 17:57

Sliscusborn are trueborn with 2 cannons, 2 carabines in a venom with dual cannons, cannonborn are trueborn with the same loadout but instead of sliscus, it may be from 3-5 models, 1-3 with carabines, a gunboat is 10 warriors with a cannon in a raider with at least splinter racks.

Smurfs: focus fire, Tau: assault, you will win Very Happy , IG: well, depends on the opponent, a vendetta spam is still a very sick list. Nids? Poison and focus fire a qsuad, move away, rinse and repeat, GK: hide, lure, focusfire, and a payload of shots will eventually kill them.

i would also advise to replace the darklances on most of your vehicles to disintegrators.
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PostSubject: Re: 6th ed advice   6th ed advice I_icon_minitimeMon Jul 30 2012, 18:38

If I swap out the dl's, what will I use for anti tank? I know I'll still have the wyches with the hwg's, and they've proven quite effective (one squad took out both a LR and a dread in my last game, both by explosion, only lost one model between the two) but it seems kinda light. I do appreciate your advice btw
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PostSubject: Re: 6th ed advice   6th ed advice I_icon_minitimeMon Jul 30 2012, 19:10

i said for Nids. 3 s5ap2 shots are better against hordes, than 1 s8 ap2 shot. MCs? Splinter'em to death Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: 6th ed advice   6th ed advice I_icon_minitimeMon Jul 30 2012, 19:24

Ah, gotcha Enfernux, thanks again. guess I need to start getting me some Venoms. Have they been durable enough for you, even with 1 less hp then Raiders/Ravagers?
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PostSubject: Re: 6th ed advice   6th ed advice I_icon_minitimeMon Jul 30 2012, 19:42

they have poot out a lot of shooting, but i moved from shooty armies to all-out assault, so i use 2 detachments, each with: archon, 3 haem, 8 incu, 2*9 wyches, 10 warriors and razorwing(s).
mind you one of this list is 1787 pts, because i take raider for my unites, and razorwings are with cannon, flicker and quadro-shatterfields Very Happy and i only have to paint 1 razorwing now, and am so proud of my babies *sheds a poisonous tear
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