1850 Competitive List

I have another 1850 tournament coming up in a couple months and looking for thoughts on 2 potential lists. Both are based around the same thing. Haemon, couple Wracks, 2x5 Wyches and 2x8-10 Wyches with 3 Ravagers. I like the how the 2nd list has the full Wych squads but I like the Reavers better. The beasts work well against transport spam, but Reavers are so fast, and put out so much damage with Bladevanes/Caltrops. Either way, I'll go over the general strats for both and we'll figure out which is better and what can be optimized.

Haemon w/Liq-60
3x Wrack w/Venom w/SC-95
3x Wrack w/Venom w/SC-95
5x Wyches w/HWG Hek w/Venom Blade in Venom w/SC-140
5x Wyches w/HWG Hek w/Agon in Venom w/SC-155
8x Wyches w/HWG, Hek w/Agon in Raider -186
8x Wyches w/HWG, Hek w/Agon in Raider -186
9x Reavers w/HLx3, CCx3-294
9x Reavers w/HLx3, CCx3-294
Ravager w/NS-115
Ravager w/NS-115
Ravager w/NS-115

Deploy to strike front transports/squads while staying out of range of incoming fire, and looking for places where Reavers can end moves safely. Haemon deploys with a Reaver to give PT. Wracks in reserve most games to walk on objectives later. If going second deploy to bait enemy in but stay out of range of big guns. Ravagers open up a transport or two. Venoms soften up a unit for reavers to hit. Reaver w/o pain token zooms over weak unit to get first blood and pain token and try to end their move near a rifledread or some artillery for turn 2. Turn 2 snipe a heavy or zoom over something in the back while everything else pushes in and reacts. Small Wych squads hit vehicles that overreach while everything else pops in and out of range firing on targets.


Haemon w/Dark Gate-75
3x Wracks in Venom w/SC-95
3x Wracks in Venom w/SC-95
5x Wyches w/HWG Hek w/Agon in Venom w/SC-155
5x Wyches w/HWG Hek w/Agon in Venom w/SC-155
10x Wyches w/HWG, Hydra x2, Hek w/Agon in Raider w/NS -240
10x Wyches w/HWG, Hydra x2, Hek w/Agon in Raider w/NS -240
4x BMs 8x Khymarae, 4x RWF-228
4x BMs 7x Khymarae, 4x RWF-216
Ravager w/NS-115
Ravager w/NS-115
Ravager w/NS-115

Second one is the same general with less a threat on the rear lines and more on the front. Beasts can hit transports, charge mobs, and soak up loads of fire. Ravagers have to focus more on Heavy Support then transports. The Wych squads are beefed up and better in combat, but more of a hit if a Raider is killed early.

The beasts are vulnerable to S6 weapons and have no benefit from Power From Pain. But can rend termis and multi charge transports. The reavers are vulnerable to flamers and getting charged by CC specialists. And the can safely put out loads of wounds, have ap1 and can harass the back lines.

Let me know what you guys think.

I prefer the first list, and though I know you've seen this already, I would be tempted to drop a couple of reavers to put NS and aethersails on the larger wych squads raiders. I know this makes them expensive, but aethersails are so win in 6th ed. I always have a bit of a clench on the go when I need my wyches to get somewhere, and I feel that 12" + 18" can be too slow and vulnerable, but 12"+ 2D6 + 18" with a minus 6" to opponents small arms makes a difference a reasonable chunk of the time - especially when they have 4 venoms and 3 ravs to worry about in this list.

However I know that breaks down the magic number of your reavers for the CC's

never been a big fan of 5 man wych squads - far too squishy for me. I'd be tempted to consolidate them into 3x8 squads in raiders, but one big reaver squad and 3 more wracks in the vacated venom?

I don't have that much feedback on the actual list, but I'm wondering what you'd do against flyers with a list like this? Hope to roll the 6 with a Ravager?

If you want to avoid any flyers, just fly up behind it, as they can only pivot 90 degrees at the start of their turn, they threat radius is kinda low....

Setomidor wrote:

I don't have that much feedback on the actual list, but I'm wondering what you'd do against flyers with a list like this? Hope to roll the 6 with a Ravager?

I get the rge to become childish and punch their flier across the room, as I usually have bad rolls when firing against them. So, I would not encourage doing that, it could upset people.

I think with these lists, if you're not including a Razorwing, firing all of the Ravagers and hoping to get a six is the best you can do.

Yea, if it's 3+ fliers like necrons I'm going to have to just deploy aggressive and crush the ground forces before they show up. It its just one flier I'll fight on the ground normally and deny as much shooting if its zooming or wait till it hovers. If I can get the Reavers under one and get lucky it should kill it or force a Jink. But mostly I'm going to just ignore it unless there are no on the ground.

Changing up the list a bit, realized I need at least a little dedicated anti air and some psychic defence. So I dropped a squad of Reavers and put this together.

Haemon w/Liq-50
3x Wracks in Venom w/SC-95
5x Wyches w/HWG, Hek w/VB in Venom w/SC, NS-150
5x Wyches w/HWG, Hek w/VB in Venom w/SC, NS-150
8x Wyches w/HWG, Hek w/Agon in Raider-186
8x Wyches w/HWG, Hek w/Agon in Raider-186
9x Reaver w/HLx3, CCx3-290
Ravager w/NS-115
Ravager w/NS-115
Ravager w/NS-115

Eldar Detachment
Farseer w/Bike, Spear, Warding, Stones (Doom,Fortune,Guide)-193
5x Rangers-95

Aegis w/Quad Gun-100

Farseer is pretty expensive but beefs up the Reavers loads. Giving them a 3+ with rerolls when zooming and either Dooming a Bladevane target or Guiding the Reavers while they go tank hunting. That should keep that one unit alive longer and deal more damage. Wracks will probably man the Quad. The rest acts as normal.