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PostSubject: The Kabal of the venomed eye joins the dark city   The Kabal of the venomed eye joins the dark city I_icon_minitimeMon Aug 13 2012, 14:42

Hello everyone, I’m Broken Arrow, and after lurking for a while and deciding whether or not to play Dark Eldar I’ve decided to take the plunge and do it. Mostly when I post it will be when I have a question, and I probably will post a bunch of stuff at once and then you won’t hear from me for a while. (I kind of come and go from 40k) right now my big question is if my fluff for my army is too controversial.

The thing is my army is led by a half-eldar, his kabal doesn’t know, he’s been made to look like a full eldar. I’ve seen this kind of thing devolve into a flame war other places, so if it’s too much of a problem I can change it. Here’s the jist of it: rogue trader discovers he’s the half dark eldar son of the archon of the kabal of the venomed eye. His mother was captured by his father and she developed Stockholm syndrome. His father discovered that humans have a thing called loyalty, and a plan hatched in his mind to secure his status as archon. He figured that a half human child wouldn’t be as likely to try to do in dear old dad as a full eldar child, making a half human the perfect second in command. He would never admit that he loved her, but he would tell his children later that their mother was an eldar with the unfortunate problem of being born in a human body. She became pregnant with twins (via science if necessary) and was sent back from whence she came until the children were ready.

Basically I want to tell a fish out of water story in the dark city, and I wanted my Archon to be a fan of Machiavelli, but unless he’s at least part human what’s he doing with a human book? Once again if it’s too much trouble I can change it, but what does the dark city think?
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PostSubject: Re: The Kabal of the venomed eye joins the dark city   The Kabal of the venomed eye joins the dark city I_icon_minitimeMon Aug 13 2012, 14:57

Welcome!

At first, I though "Oh dear... half eldar". However your reasoning is great (loyal children are a rare commodity in the Dark City). I look forward to hearing more. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: The Kabal of the venomed eye joins the dark city   The Kabal of the venomed eye joins the dark city I_icon_minitimeMon Aug 13 2012, 15:00

Welcome, Broken Arrow to Commorragh.

Coming and going with questions is absolutely fine as we shall always be here... I hope.
The fluff for your army is a bit far fetched in my opinion. The thing is that I doubt that human and Eldar are compatible. After all, they are a super advanced race that is biologically superior in every way and probably have a very different chromosome structure.
On top of that, Eldar DNA is a double Helix, which is very different to our own Helix DNA.
I think at a push it could be possible through science, but it seems a bit unlikely in my opinion.

Now, interbreeding a Dark Eldar and an Exodite could work. They are still very closely related, the only real differences being that Dark Eldar are paler, slightly stronger and far more aggressive and paranoid. Breeding a Dark Eldar with an Exodite could num the aggression and form a sense of loyalty.

On the Machiavelli idea, many things have been lost between now and the forty first millennium, and I feel a bit doubtful that the book would still exist, unless it was a copy that the Archon has made from raided Imperial Records that he has tattooed onto the skin of failed servants.

On a final point, I don't see Ynneas Eldarith as feeling love. As it is portrayed in the story 'Mistress Baeda's Gift' their equivalent is called inyon lama-quanon. This is roughly translated into 'to make another person one's prized possession or subservient.' It says in this story that the term 'love' is barbaric.

These are just my quick thoughts, so feel free to use them or leave them. I don't mind. Smile

Enjoy your time here in The Dark City!
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PostSubject: Re: The Kabal of the venomed eye joins the dark city   The Kabal of the venomed eye joins the dark city I_icon_minitimeMon Aug 13 2012, 15:44

@Mushkilla
Glad you like it, I figured straight up eldar on human action was implausible on the dark eldar side. He had to have some kind of ulterior motive, otherwise he wouldn’t bother with her in the first place, and what better motive is there than self-preservation?
@ Cavash:
Thank you for the input, but humans have a double helix DNA, Eldar have a triple helix. Which explains why the half-eldar (by the way his name is Malik) was chosen to be the temporary archon when his father is incapacitated, 2/3 of his DNA belongs to his father. They look practically identical, you couldn’t tell which one is which with a quick glance.
Second Machiavelli’s The Prince is not a common book in the 41st millennium, Malik found it inside a stasis vault library on a space hulk during his rogue trader days. It’s probably the only copy left in the imperium (or not in the imperium now).
Finally I knew I should have read “Mistress Baeda’s Gift” before I wrote my fluff, but I couldn’t find the book it was in anywhere. You don’t happen to know where I could find it do you?
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PostSubject: Re: The Kabal of the venomed eye joins the dark city   The Kabal of the venomed eye joins the dark city I_icon_minitimeMon Aug 13 2012, 15:51

This topic might be helpful:

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PostSubject: Re: The Kabal of the venomed eye joins the dark city   The Kabal of the venomed eye joins the dark city I_icon_minitimeMon Aug 13 2012, 16:03

Ah yes, sorry about the confusion with the DNA. In my head I knew what they looked like but I couldn't get the words right. It's been so long since I've read Xenology.
I still don't think that they would be compatible, though.

Mistress Baeda's gift starts on page 157 of the short story collection book Fear the Alien. It is written by Braden Campbell.
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PostSubject: Re: The Kabal of the venomed eye joins the dark city   The Kabal of the venomed eye joins the dark city I_icon_minitimeMon Aug 13 2012, 16:06

Ops sorry Eldar have a quintuple helix DNA, my bad. So just Adjust the ratio to maybe 3/4, now they're really identical Laughing I've lost my copy of Xenobiology a long time ago, but that does help me knowing that it's not possible via natural means, cue the hemonculus. I've even got an Idea as to how it would work: take the human mother's DNA and translate her properties into eldar DNA code. Then mix and mingle the DNA of the two parents via a program simulating natural reproduction of DNA, then wham hybrid in a tube. It helps that the Hemonculus for my Kabal is a bit shall we say "eccentric" even by dark eldar standards.
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PostSubject: Re: The Kabal of the venomed eye joins the dark city   The Kabal of the venomed eye joins the dark city I_icon_minitimeMon Aug 13 2012, 16:20

Cool. Good to see it's thought out.

Every Archon is eccentric by Dark Eldar standards, lol.
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