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Luusydh
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PostSubject: 1500 List - New Player   1500 List - New Player I_icon_minitimeThu Feb 28 2013, 05:24

Been out of the game for long enough to consider myself essentially brand new. Looking to try out DE and this is what I`ve come up with from the codex. Any comments and criticism are appreciated.

TOTAL (1496)

HQ (270)
Archon – 115
Power Sword
Combat Drugs
Soul-Trap
Shadow Field

Archon – 145
Huskblade
Combat Drugs
Soul-Trap
Shadow Field

Elites (350)
5x Trueborn – 175
4x Blaster
Venom
Splinter Cannon

5x Trueborn – 175
4x Blaster
Venom
Splinter Cannon

Troops (366)
9x Wyches – 183
1x Hydra Gauntlets
9x Haywire Grenades
Hekatrix w/ Venom Blade
Raider

9x Wyches – 183
1x Hydra Gauntlets
9x Haywire Grenades
Hekatrix w/ Venom Blade
Raider

5x Kabalite Warriors – 115
Venom
Splinter Cannon

Heavy (395)
Ravager – 105

Ravager – 105

Razorwing Jetfighter – 185
Splinter Cannon
2x Shatterfield
Flickerfield
Night Shields


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PostSubject: Re: 1500 List - New Player   1500 List - New Player I_icon_minitimeThu Feb 28 2013, 12:15

Avoid mixing blasters and dark lances on your trueborn squads. If you move the trueborn to get the blasters in range, you can only fire a snapshot with the dl. Either run 3 with 2 lances and put them in cover or go for the more conventional 3/4 blasters.

Also, I haven't got my codex to hand but I don't think you can take 2 hydra gauntlets on your wyches.

Finally, I wouldn't bother with the ghost plate armor on your first archon. Once you lose the 2++ you are pretty much dead anyway. Your second archon build looks much better to me.


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Irakunar Thrax
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PostSubject: Re: 1500 List - New Player   1500 List - New Player I_icon_minitimeThu Feb 28 2013, 12:57

Few troop selections, might be hard winning in objective based missions.

Just my two cents.
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Shadows Revenge
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PostSubject: Re: 1500 List - New Player   1500 List - New Player I_icon_minitimeThu Feb 28 2013, 15:38

Ok, let me see where I can help you:

HQ: First off no need for ghostplate, when you lose your shadowfield, ghostplate isnt going to save you. Also there is no need for a soultrap if you arent running a huskblade. As for the power weapon, what type??? why not just get an agoniser???

Also at 1.5k, no need for two HQs, especially two expensive Archons

Elites: Dont Mix and match weapons on your trueborn. Either run all blasters, or run dark lances. Both are decent choices, but pick one that fits your playstyle.

Troops: Low troops for 1.5k, and running your only 2 ways of scoring objectives at the opponent is a quick way to lose the game. Change one to warriors (you are dropping the 2nd archon right??? no reason to keep them wyches) and get some more troops. Also you must have 10 wyches in the unit to get a second wych weapon, not 9.

Heavy: What is the purpose of the aethersails on the Ravagers??? its a useless upgrade

The razorwing's base missles wound MEQ (your average toughness of 4) on a 2+ already, so the necrotoxin missiles are a wasted points as well. Also always take a flickerfield on a plane, as when you dodge, its a 5+ coversave, and you can only snapfire. The flickerfield gives you a 5++, so it makes you always have a save without the need to dodge and take the penalties.
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PostSubject: Re: 1500 List - New Player   1500 List - New Player I_icon_minitimeFri Mar 01 2013, 03:13

List has been updated. Here's a log:
  • Ghostplate Armor and Haywire Grenades removed from the Archon with the Power Sword
  • Dark Lances and Haywire Grenades removed from the Blasterborn squads.
  • Hydra Gauntlet ratio on the wyches fixed to be legal with the Codex. Misread it unfortunately.
  • Added a small squad of AI Kabalite Warriors in a gunboat for superior firepower and better scoring chances.
  • Enhanced Aethersails removed from all Raiders and Ravagers
  • Razorwing Jetfighter reworked to be more survivable and a more all-around killer. As my only real anti-flyer option, its gotta be a little more durable, and Night Shields and Flicker Field will at least give me some saves and survivability.
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Mushkilla
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PostSubject: Re: 1500 List - New Player   1500 List - New Player I_icon_minitimeFri Mar 01 2013, 07:54

I would drop the night shield on the razorwing as due to flyer movement they will always always be close to the opponent, so you won't get much out of the night shield.

The splinter cannon isn't really needed as you can only fire 4 weapons a turn, and flyer only get 2-4 turns of shooting. Assuming you are running the razorwing with darklances for AA, you will realistically get 1-2 turn shooting aircraft, and 1-2 turns shooting infantry.

I would also save the points and not upgrade any of the missiles, S6 is more than enough to deal with most infantry.

Hope that helps. Smile
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